Floyd Mayweather Jr Lost a Step? Statistics Show Otherwise

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  • SplitSecond
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    #21
    despite my first post in this thread, i partially agree, for the most part he is about prime except for his stamina

    his defense has always been overrated anyway, he's been hit plenty in alot of fights, hurt on numerous occassions through-out his career

    and maidana more than anything was just a stylistic nightmare for mayweather

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    • IronDanHamza
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      #22
      Originally posted by -Kev-
      He is a young 37. Like Hopkins at 37, Wlad, Marquez. I consider them all young late 30 year olds. They took little punishment and take care of their bodies.
      The difference between those guys is they started late.

      Marquez turned pro in 1993 but he didn't fight on the world level until 2003 at age 30.

      Hopkins didn't fight on the world level until 1993 at age 28. People consider Hopkins green at age 28.

      Klitscko fought at world level at the age of 24 but Heavyweight age much slower than guys at the lighter weights generally.

      Floyd has been fighting at the world level since 1997 at a young age, he's been at the world level 18 years. It's completely different to someone like Marquez who's been fighting there for 11 years.

      Hopkins has been there 20 years and he's near the end of his career.

      Hopkins is 49 whereas Floyd is 37 but Hopkins has only been fighting at the same level a few years longer.

      Much like Sergio Martinez who started Boxing in his 20's and didn't fight at the world level until his late 20's was in his prime at age 35.

      Martinez at 35 and Mayweather at 35 are two entirely different things. Age is just a number. Same as Hopkins at 35 who was in his prime.

      Wilfred Benitez was at the elite level at age 17 and was shot by his late 20's.

      Obviously there's exceptions but for the most part this is the case. It's all about levels.

      There is not a single fighter you can find me that was in their prime in their 18th year at world level. Try and name me one, you can't, it's literally impossible.

      Floyd has been a world champion and fighting at that level for 17 years, man. That takes a huge toll on your body.

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      • Jewel
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        #23
        So he's throwing less punches than before while landing more. With a lower punch output he surely can't be declining?

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        • Jay Volcano
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          #24
          Styles make fights. Floyd looked unstoppable against Canelo. He is clearly not in his prime but he is still a cut above the rest.

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          • -Kev-
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            #25
            Originally posted by Reloaded
            Mayweather " I felt dry and dead , it was a C- level performance "
            It was an insult to Maidana and Garcia. Floyd knew he did better than in the first fight, he knew he showed he still has his legs, he knew overall that he clearly beat Maidana better than in the first fight. But he wanted to insult Maidana/Garcia by saying "I beat you with my C game". It was an insult, people ate it up though. I could see right through it. He was being falsely modest. Look at him in the 12th round, that didn't look like someone who was "dry and dead". He was trying to play down Maidana.

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            • Dr Rumack
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              #26
              Jeebus Christ. Seriously, Kev. Using 'connect percentages' to make an argument. If you just pulled the numbers out of your arse five minutes ago they wouldn't be any less reliable than the compubox 'connect percentage'.

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                #27
                Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                The difference between those guys is they started late.

                Marquez turned pro in 1993 but he didn't fight on the world level until 2003 at age 30.

                Hopkins didn't fight on the world level until 1993 at age 28. People consider Hopkins green at age 28.

                Klitscko fought at world level at the age of 24 but Heavyweight age much slower than guys at the lighter weights generally.

                Floyd has been fighting at the world level since 1997 at a young age, he's been at the world level 18 years. It's completely different to someone like Marquez who's been fighting there for 11 years.

                Hopkins has been there 20 years and he's near the end of his career.

                Hopkins is 49 whereas Floyd is 37 but Hopkins has only been fighting at the same level a few years longer.

                Much like Sergio Martinez who started Boxing in his 20's and didn't fight at the world level until his late 20's was in his prime at age 35.
                that was steroids man..

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                  #28
                  Floyd gave himself a C+ for that performance. I think that's just where he's at in his career.

                  It's not about statistics, everyone who has watched him for years can see a visible decline and Maidana's no elite opponent. His fans need to come to terms with it.
                  Last edited by Weebler I; 09-14-2014, 04:24 PM.

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                  • IronDanHamza
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by -Kev-
                    He just fought an energetic fighter, that's all.

                    If the current 2014 Floyd fought the 2010 Mosley that the 2010 Floyd fought, we'd see the same exact fight, same numbers and everything. Styles make fights.

                    If the current Floyd went back to 2007 to fight undefeated Hatton again, we'd see the same fight.

                    If the current Floyd fought DLH in May 2007, we'd most likely see an even better performance from Floyd.
                    Absolutely no way. There's just no way.

                    Fighters age, it doesn't matter who you are you can't beat father time.

                    You aren't the same fighter 10 years into your pro career as you are when you're 18 years into your pro career.

                    You just aren't.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                      Contrary to popular belief, stats sometimes lie.

                      Just watching him fight he clearly, clearly has lost not one step but many steps.

                      He's clearly slower, both hand and feet, he get's hit, a lot more, he's sometimes out of position.

                      If you compare todays' Floyd with the Floyd that fought Ricky Hatton for example it's complete night and day in comparison.

                      Hell, if you compare Floyd of today with the one that fought Mosley it's night and day in comparison.

                      This is why I love you (no ****) you think exactly the way I do. The Floyd that fought Hatton and the one that fought yesterday are like two totally different fighters.

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