Who will retire with the best legacy?

[enadeus]

1. Toney
2. Roy Jones Jr.
3. Hopkins

[MrUnstoppable]

longevity and improvement over the years give the over all edge to toney in my opinion, jones was great for a short time while toney has been excellent for a long time.

Jones was on top of the pound 4 pound list for almost a decade. Toney was the man when he first started, then he fell off the map for several years, then made a comeback when he got Freddie Roach in his corner. There was a period in time around '97 where Toney was horrible. You really can't give Toney credit for being good for a long period of time but you can give him ups for making a comeback and taking over right now.

[JoeTheRock7]

If Toney unifies the titles i predict Roy coming up in weight and taking a crack at him.

[AREALFIGHTER]

Looking at the overall carrer I give it to jones as he did beat toney and hokins as well as tarver but his last few fights have been really reallty bad. Toneys only losses were close controversial desison losses to griffen the blowout by jones and the mental laps of thadiz. Bhop had the weakest opposition except for teto and oscar who where much smaller men than bhop. Toney has done much more of late he schooled ruiz as well as jones did and his win agienst jirov was huge as jirov was the best in the divison at the time. If toney beats rahman and makes some deffences agienst the best avalable opposition he will have the better legacy. He will be a what 4 divison champ and he is fighting better now at an older age than jones. So ya if toney really does something at HW he wins no dought

[blockhead]

Jones was on top of the pound 4 pound list for almost a decade. Toney was the man when he first started, then he fell off the map for several years, then made a comeback when he got Freddie Roach in his corner. There was a period in time around '97 where Toney was horrible. You really can't give Toney credit for being good for a long period of time but you can give him ups for making a comeback and taking over right now.

the fact that he has the ability to make a comeback, unlike roy is just another reason why toney tops the list.

[MrUnstoppable]

the fact that he has the ability to make a comeback, unlike roy is just another reason why toney tops the list.

Roy was dominant for so long he doesn't have to make a comeback to prove his point. Roy never fell off until his time had passed.

[blockhead]

Roy was dominant for so long he doesn't have to make a comeback to prove his point. Roy never fell off until his time had passed.

his time passed to early in my opinion. he should have rematched toney, if that happened and he beat a toney that came to fight i would think of putting him at no. 1, but the record of 69 and 4 and counting is just to much for roy and hop, nobody fights like that anymore. james toney has a record like the guys did in the old days when they fought often and for many years. that speaks a lot to me in a time when guys retire after thirty or forty fights.

[MrUnstoppable]

his time passed to early in my opinion. he should have rematched toney, if that happened and he beat a toney that came to fight i would think of putting him at no. 1, but the record of 69 and 4 and counting is just to much for roy and hop, nobody fights like that anymore. james toney has a record like the guys did in the old days when they fought often and for many years. that speaks a lot to me in a time when guys retire after thirty or forty fights.

How can you say his time passed too early when he didn't get beat until after he turned 35? And that was after 50 professional fights! Are you kidding me? Toney's record is impressive but there is a lot more that goes into a record than numbers. Toney lost his fights at a time where he should have been at the top of his game. He would have been one of greatest of all time if he had his head on straight. But he didn't. Toney's style gives him longevity but Roy's in more about speed and reflexes which have deteriorated. Bottom line...Jones beat Toney at a time where both should have been in their prime. Legacy refers to the span of the career, not what have you done for me lately.

[keystone30pack]

gotta go w/ jones those last three fights are tarnishing his record and rep- tonsy is a great one too but he lost to jones - you cant put him ahead of someone he lost to

[gattifan24]

If Hopkins can beat Tarver at 175, he'd beat a bigger man and would deserve a much greater legacy for doing that. Of course, if he does, it will be in another 60 punch landed fight that nobody wants to sit through