Comments Thread For: Mayweather: All The Pacquiao Stories Are Totally False

[HeroBando]

did I say that? no. You said all he was left with was $29 mil. I said that based on his max payday, you can't over exaggerate his stature.

Like I said, if you feel manny deserves more, fine. That's a fair opinion. Just be honest that he turned down the offer that would pay him much more than that.

Shouldn't he have to pay for such a bad decision?

Stop wasting my time. You just said 29m was a great deal cause Pac had never made that much. Then 40m + $1 was a great deal for Floyd to fight Pac and he should pay (lol) for rejecting Arums 50m. He should certainly pay for asking for 20m for the Oscar fight when his then high was a small fraction of that.

[GOD-FR33]

Good post.........

I respect this post.

[BoxingLaw]

Thanks Floyd, for crushing my dreams…again.

My older brother and I were completely buying all of those rumors. We were going around saying, "Oh its gonna happen, just you wait. Ive heard things." Ive been skipping around like when Peter Griffin got his own theme music. haha

The rumors (especially the TMT van at Top Rank) reinvigorated our fight analysis talks. Which are always fun at least.

What I don't understand is…You're bigger, taller, faster, longer reach, yet still no fight?

You (Floyd) do realize that you would be heavily favored before the fight with Pac right?

C'mon Mr. Money, make the fight happen.

[The Big Dunn]

Stop wasting my time. You just said 29m was a great deal cause Pac had never made that much. Then 40m + $1 was a great deal for Floyd to fight Pac and he should pay (lol) for rejecting Arums 50m. He should certainly pay for asking for 20m for the Oscar fight when his then high was a small fraction of that.

The difference is Floyd has made more than $50 mil for fights, while manny hasn't. again, you can't leave the facts out that don't support your points.

Yeah, its hard to justify manny turning down both offers. Instead of taking 50/50 and OST, he fought Clottey for a fraction of that. Instead of taking $40 mil, no ppv (which you said would end up being $29 mil) and getting pot shotted all night, he took the bulk of the ppv, earned $28 mil, and got KTFO!!

[Mr. Punch-Out!!]

Your argument is weak because what risks did Manny take that Floyd didn't? He fought Margarito after Mosely stopped him...is that it? Floyd took a risk fighting Cotto @ 154, and Canelo @ 152. He fought Oscar @ 154. He beat Hatton and Mosely before Manny. Just look at their last 5 opponents. You can't criticize Maidana (Who had the WBA WW Title) then go fight Chris Algeri.

How was Floyd fighting Canelo at 152 a risk? He was never a real threat to Mayweather (especially when he had trouble making the weight) and almost nobody gave Cotto a chance of beating Floyd. Also, unlike Mayweather, Pacquiao beat Hatton at his own weight.

If we're talking about style differences, an argument can be made for Pacquiao fighting Algieri. He's taking a bigger risk than Floyd at the moment.

[Nomadic]

We back here again? This is topic is like a bad record that just keep going round and around.

[Bronx2245]

How was Floyd fighting Canelo at 152 a risk? He was never a real threat to Mayweather (especially when he had trouble making the weight) and almost nobody gave Cotto a chance of beating Floyd. Also, unlike Mayweather, Pacquiao beat Hatton at his own weight.

If we're talking about style differences, an argument can be made for Pacquiao fighting Algieri. He's taking a bigger risk than Floyd at the moment.

If Mayweather fighting canelo @ 152 was no risk, why didn't Manny do it? Let's see what Roach siad:

Outside of Juan Manuel Marquez, are there any other choices for him? Or is that the choice for him?

"Well, you know, they're talking about Canelo Alvarez now. At the right weight, we'll fight him. Thing is, he's a much bigger guy than Manny usually. But if we can get a catchweight that'd be fair to both of them, I think it'd be a good fight. I'd love that fight. There's a lot of fights out there that I'd like Manny to fight, but since the promoters are against each other right now, they're hard to get.

"I hope (Marquez) isn't our only choice. Because, you know, we would love to fight Marquez one more time and get that off our back, but I don't think he'll fight Manny. He's turned us down, he turned down big money to fight Manny in a rematch. Well, I can't call it a rematch. ... I do hear rumors of Bob and Oscar talking. That sounds good to me!"

How does that fight play out? Canelo's a little bigger guy, I know Manny didn't want to fight at 154 anymore, because with the Margarito fight, he just felt that was too big a fight. How does that fight go?

"Without talking to Manny first, I think the biggest he can fight is 150. So, like, he made catchweight at that. But can the other guy come down that far? I know (Canelo) came down to 152 for Mayweather, but it's a hard decision to make. But I think there's a lot of obstacles in the way that need to be cleaned up between Oscar's company and Top Rank. Hopefully, everything works out, though."

http://www.badlefthook.com/2014/5/27...to-face-canelo

So Canelo would have to come down to 150, not 152. I call that avoiding risk. And then who did he pick...Algeri. If you say Algeri is a bigger risk to Manny @ 144, then you lose all credibility. Maidana is way more powerful then Algeri, and he came in last time 160-165 with a gang of KO's.

[Bronx2245]

No, its different. Floyd's offer had Arum cut out of the promotion. So he gotta get his minimum. When Pac fights on a Top Rank promoted show there's no such thing. Arum profits on the promotion in that case

So you're telling me that Manny could have $40 million without 27% to TR, and still turned it down? Regardless of how you slice it, that $40 million is more than he ever made...still! Arum was never gonna let it happen anyway. He protected Manny with the cuts, stadiums, etc. However when Manny re-signed (unlike Oscar and Cotto) he lost mad money. Forget Floyd, he could be fighting Khan in the UK, Canelo in Vegas, etc. Basically, he could be fighting the best in his division, instead of Algeri @ 144.

[Doctor_Tenma]

I don't have the same fervor, man. But it's hard to find something else to talk about when the first two pages are flooded with Floyd topics. Sometimes I think guys like javi and co. are really members of TMT drumming up publicity by talking about him 24-7.

I noticed that more yesterday, a full page all Mayweather threads...insane man

[HeroBando]

So you're telling me that Manny could have $40 million without 27% to TR, and still turned it down? Regardless of how you slice it, that $40 million is more than he ever made...still! Arum was never gonna let it happen anyway. He protected Manny with the cuts, stadiums, etc. However when Manny re-signed (unlike Oscar and Cotto) he lost mad money. Forget Floyd, he could be fighting Khan in the UK, Canelo in Vegas, etc. Basically, he could be fighting the best in his division, instead of Algeri @ 144.

No I'm telling you the exact opposite duh.