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Originally posted by bigjavi973 View PostWhy would pacquiao accept a ridicolous, absurd offer like that? Thats the lowest of the low ball offers. And I dont wanna hear crap about a side cuz mayweather is the one that came out of retirement while pacquiao was fighting and winning.
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post50-50 was a lowball offer?
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View PostDazed don't waste your time. that one is one of the dumber ones, which is saying a lot because NSB attracts the least educated and most simple minded Pac fans on the net. he simply regurgitates what other really crap pac fans post. he knows little, if anything about the sport.
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostIn many minds, Floyd moving on is a sign that he never wanted the fight, was ducking then and is ducking now. It's kind of disturbing but who am I to judge? We all see things different.
But I would've thought the passage of time would've shown the opposite. Those terms in 2009 were part of a ****ing incredible deal: The best and biggest fighters in the world agreeing to split the pot evenly while setting terms that would hold both parties accountable in the gym and on the scales. But drug testing was a deal-breaker and they both went their separate ways.
In Mayweather's next fight he sells more PPV's than Manny has ever sold in one fight. And makes it clear that he generates more money. The next time the two discuss, Mayweather offers $40m. Pacquiao and fans call it a "duck." Well look back, because that too was a great deal. Since then, Pacquiao has lost twice, including the KO of the century. It's no wonder that Floyd's new "offer" is "Come sign to TMT" aka beat it, sucker. Yes, Floyd's come-uppance may come sooner than he realizes but the KO blow he laid to some of you fans was so cold that most are still unconscious, unaware of what just happened and it's reflected in your posts."but he was the a side doe". How was he the a side when he came out of retirement and pacquiao was fighting and winning?
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Originally posted by bigjavi973 View PostFloyd working with ariza makes the whole ped issue a sham. First floyd bashes ariza, accusing him of supplying fighters with peds. Why did he even bother associating with ariza, an accused ped supplier by floyd, if floyd is trying to "clean up the sport"? Funny how no one that has fought pacquiao has EVER accused him of ped usage. That two weeks cut off date was ridicolous. The normal time that a fighter would gets blood taken out is 21-24 days. That 40 mil flat was a low ball offer, that financially did not make sense whatsoever. "Oh but mayweathers next fight sold alot", oh you mean when he fought future hall of famer shane mosley???"but he was the a side doe". How was he the a side when he came out of retirement and pacquiao was fighting and winning?
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Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostYeah I see that. I remember how misinformed he was about the Mayweather-Margarito situation. Now this. But why post so much on something you know absolutely nothing on? Interesting.
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Originally posted by megadeth View PostNow why you gotta lie??
DECEMBER 25, 2009
Arum declares that the fight is officially off and Pacquiao would target Paulie Malignaggi instead; blames Schaefer again, not Mayweather.
"This fight is absolutely off. That's our position, period, is that we're moving on to Malignaggi. And if Mayweather loses this fight, and all of this money, then he has only one guy to blame, and that's Richard Schaefer. This is not Mayweather. This is Richard Schaefer," remarked Arum, still fuming over the press release sent out by Golden Boy Promotions 3 days prior, as he directed full blame back to Richard Schaefer. Despite the efforts of HBO Sports President Ross Greenburg to bring both sides together through mediation, Arum, who voluntarily removed himself from the negotiation process nearly two weeks prior, was no longer willing to continue working towards an agreement as long as Schaefer was still involved. "I called up Ross and I said, 'I'm not going to take part in any mediation or anything. I'm not going to deal with Richard Schaefer on instructions from my client. He's demeaned and libeled my client for no damn reason. And I'm just not going to take part in it. If they want to come back and have someone else represent them -- [Mayweather's adviser] Leonard Ellerbe -- or anybody else they want, then we can sit down and do this the right way with the Nevada Athletic Commission having complete jurisdiction over everything," Arum explained, reiterating that the only testing they would agree to was the testing already done by the Nevada State Athletic Commission. "Then, we would agree to pre-fight testing, urine analysis, blood-testing, whatever it took to get this fight done," said Arum. "But we'd only do it with the Nevada Athletic Commission. But for now, Manny has asked me to move on to Malignaggi."
On December 13, 2009, Pacquiao's adviser, Michael Koncz, said Mayweather's request for Olympic-style drug testing was a laughing matter and they had no concerns whatsoever about it. "Our reaction is, 'So what?' We know Manny doesn't take any illegal drugs or anything. And none of this is getting under Manny's skin or anything. I'm here with Manny, and to him, it's like a joke. It's a laughing matter," said Koncz.
After reports had surfaced that both parties had agreed to all terms, Golden Boy Promotions released a press release on December 22, 2009, revealing that Pacquiao was unwilling to comply with the Olympic-style drug testing requested by Team Mayweather. The following day, Bob Arum, Top Rank founder and CEO, declared the fight was off and Pacquiao would be facing a different opponent. "We appeased Mayweather by agreeing to a urine analysis at any time, and blood testing before the press conference and after the fight. Mayweather pressed for blood testing even up to the weigh-in. He knew that Manny gets freaked out when his blood gets taken and feels that it weakens him. This is just harassment and, to me, just signaled that he didn't want the fight," Arum told David Mayo of the Grand Rapids Press.
Not long after declaring that the fight was off, Arum had a change of heart and offered Mayweather a 24-hour take-it-or-leave-it deadline to accept Team Pacquiao's terms for drug testing. Top Rank sent out a press release explaining their position on Mayweather's request for random Olympic-style drug testing. In it, Arum said Pacquiao was willing to submit to as many random urine tests requested, but as far as random blood tests were concerned, he was only willing to subject himself to 3 tests: one in January, one 30 days from the bout (no later than February 13) and immediately after the fight. "Let's be very clear on the real issues we differ on. It's not about being tested....It's about who does the testing and the scheduling of the procedures....The major issue related to the testing rests with which independent agency will administer these tests. The United States Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) cannot do it because they will not amend its procedures to accommodate the blood testing schedule we have outlined. USADA, under its guidelines, would have the right to administer random blood tests as many times as they want up to weigh-in day and that is ludicrous," Arum explained.
Freddie Roach told Lance Pugmire of the Los Angeles Times on December 22, 2009, that he would prefer for Pacquiao to give his final blood sample a week before the bout and no later than 72 hours before.
On December 28, 2009, video from an episode of HBO's Pacquiao-Hatton: 24/7 surfaced on the internet showing Pacquiao giving blood in the weeks leading up to his May 2, 2009, bout with Ricky Hatton. Documents confirmed that the video was recorded on April 8, 2009, 24 days prior to the fight and past the 30-day cut-off date that Pacquiao had demanded for a Mayweather fight.
Pacquiao filed suit in U.S. District Court in Nevada on December 30, 2009, against Floyd Mayweather Jr., Floyd Mayweather Sr., Roger Mayweather, Mayweather Promotions and Golden Boy Promotions executives Oscar De La Hoya and Richard Schaefer, alleging that they made false and defamatory statements accusing him of taking performance-enhancing drugs.
Both sides agreed to enter into mediation on January 7, 2010, in hopes of coming to an agreement on the blood testing issue. Retired federal judge Daniel Weinstein, who successfully resolved a prior dispute between Top Rank and Golden Boy Promotions, would again act as mediator. Two days later, after hours of negotiating during mediation, Arum declared that the fight was officially off after Mayweather refused to agree to a 24-day cut-off date. Mayweather revealed that he offered a 14-day cut-off date to Team Pacquiao, but it was rejected.
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