Comments Thread For: Mayweather: All The Pacquiao Stories Are Totally False

[ELPacman]

Mayweather will NEVER be able to live it down the rest of his life if he doesn't fight Pac. He will forever be judged by everyone for avoiding Pac.

[daddymon]

In many minds, Floyd moving on is a sign that he never wanted the fight, was ducking then and is ducking now. It's kind of disturbing but who am I to judge? We all see things different.

But I would've thought the passage of time would've shown the opposite. Those terms in 2009 were part of a ****ing incredible deal: The best and biggest fighters in the world agreeing to split the pot evenly while setting terms that would hold both parties accountable in the gym and on the scales. But drug testing was a deal-breaker and they both went their separate ways.

In Mayweather's next fight he sells more PPV's than Manny has ever sold in one fight. And makes it clear that he generates more money. The next time the two discuss, Mayweather offers $40m. Pacquiao and fans call it a "duck." Well look back, because that too was a great deal. Since then, Pacquiao has lost twice, including the KO of the century. It's no wonder that Floyd's new "offer" is "Come sign to TMT" aka beat it, sucker. Yes, Floyd's come-uppance may come sooner than he realizes but the KO blow he laid to some of you fans was so cold that most are still unconscious, unaware of what just happened and it's reflected in your posts.

Not only has Bob lied about Mayweather, he's lied plenty of times:

But Cotto, a promotional free agent who had spent his entire career with Top Rank (aside from his May fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr.) had other ideas. Sure, Cotto was open to facing Pacquiao again -- and when has Cotto ever ducked a tough opponent? -- but he is also a proud man.

Feeling disrespected, Cotto refused to take a deal that wasn't to his liking and rejected Arum's offer. Instead, he decided to work again with Golden Boy, which put on the Mayweather fight, and accepted a fight with junior middleweight titlist Austin Trout for far less money...

For the 2009 fight, Cotto's deal with Top Rank called for a guaranteed $6.5 million purse, plus a share of the pay-per-view profits. During the Sergio Martinez-Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. promotion last month, Arum told boxing reporters that he offered Cotto $13 million for the Pacquiao rematch and estimated that with strong pay-per-view sales Cotto could earn another $2 million from his share of the profits.

Arum said that when Cotto turned it down, he and Pacquiao went with Marquez for Pacquiao's next fight, just one week after Cotto's.

Cotto vigorously disputed Arum's claim.

"The only offer Top Rank ever made us was the same money as in 2009," Cotto told ESPN.com. "[Arum] made the same offer he made in 2009, and we found it kind of funny. That was the reason we decided not to face Pacquiao. That, and they also wanted me to go down to 150 pounds and give him the same advantage that they gave Pacquiao in 2009, a catchweight."

Cotto said he was surprised to read that Arum said he offered him $13 million.

"Bob said he offered us $13 million, but he never came to us with that offer," Cotto said. "He always offered us the same guarantee he offered us in 2009, with the same benefits, and that's not fair. He offered the exact same amount of money. Of course it's a business, but all we want is fair business. You can say to Bob to tell me he made that offer to me to my face, and you will see his reaction.

"Miguel Cotto always agrees to fight the best. I've never said no to anybody, but you need to treat me fairly in business."

Even if the money could have been worked out, Cotto said the weight was a major issue.

For the 2009 bout he had agreed to go down to 145 pounds, two less than the welterweight limit, and said it took its toll. If he had taken the rematch at 150, it would mean dropping 4 pounds below the junior middleweight limit, which is where Cotto has fought his four bouts since his loss to Pacquiao.

"If he wants a big name and wants to fight the best, no catchweight," Cotto said of Pacquiao. "Making catchweights is easy for them. They make the other guy have trouble making weight and they take advantage of that. I wasn't going to do that again. I am 154 pounds. I am not going to fight at a catchweight and make myself weak."

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...rematch-boxing

Dan Rafael of ESPN, January 2012:

Friday's turn of events made that pretty clear. There have been previous negotiations and lots of rhetoric. At various times throughout this whole ordeal, I believe both sides have been to blame.

But at this moment, the fault of a fight not being made falls squarely on the shoulders of Top Rank promoter Bob Arum, who, in my view, simply doesn't want to make the match at a moment when there seems to be no legitimate impediment.

Arum doesn't want to match his cash cow, Pacquiao, with somebody he doesn't control, and he has no control over Mayweather. He once did, but that was years ago, before their nasty breakup...

It was just this week that Arum said he would go to the Philippines to meet with Pacquiao and present him with the names of four possible opponents for May or June: Miguel Cotto, Marquez, Lamont Peterson and Timothy Bradley Jr.

Arum figured Mayweather would be in jail and off the table. Now that Mayweather is available and seemingly would like to make the match, Arum suddenly isn't interested.

He used the lame excuse of the cut Pacquiao suffered against Marquez, saying he might not be ready for May. (I've never heard of a cut taking more than six months to heal.) However, earlier this week, when Arum thought Mayweather would be on ice behind bars, he said there was a good possibility Pacquiao would fight in May.

Moments after Mayweather was granted the continuance, Arum changed his tune. "We're fighting in June, one of the four guys," Arum told me over the phone. I asked him, now that Mayweather was available, would he at least be part of the conversation when Arum meets with Pacquiao next week? A perturbed Arum's response was, "Absolutely not. Nope." Come again? You won't even talk about it with Pacquiao, I asked very politely. "My mission is to go over to the Philippines and talk about these four guys," Arum said. "If Manny feels he wants to go in May, he will tell me. I want to make sure Manny's cuts are healed. We won't fall under this kind of pressure. June is much more likely for Manny's fight, not May." So May was a real possibility yesterday, but now there's no way?

"What if they fought and Manny started bleeding on the first punch?" a clearly flustered Arum said. "I don't know if Manny is available to fight in May. I have no idea. I haven't talked to him; I haven't seen him. Seems to me, June is more likely based on what his plastic surgeon said..."

"I don't think Manny Pacquiao wants to be on that list of names for Mayweather, or Bob doesn't want him to be on the list," Schaefer said. "I am sick and tired of Arum's bulls---. First Bob said June is when Pacquiao would fight, when Floyd was going to be on May 5. Then, when it looked like Floyd wouldn't be available in May, he said Pacquiao would be available in May. Now, since they know Mayweather is going to fight in May, suddenly Pacquiao is going to fight in June.

"I'm tired of all those people saying it is Mayweather who doesn't want the fight. Arum knows who to call. He can pick up the phone and call me and say, 'Let's get a fight done with Pacquiao.' The rest of it is bulls---. The rest can go drink the Arum and Top Rank Kool-Aid. It is Arum who doesn't want the fight to happen, end of story."

I agree with Schaefer.

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...yweather-fight

It's getting real tired trying to educate the pac-tards! Arum is a snake, and your boy Pacquiao is his flunkie. He should've bounced! Good luck with Chris Algeri at a CW.

Can you put this on a stamp and put it on Pac fan and Floyd haters foreheads.

[Dr Rumack]

Manny Pacquiao: You're next.

[SERGEY DRAGO]

These are small man. Not real champion.

[The Problem]

These are small man. Not real champion.

These "small men" would leave you drinking through a straw, and these men have more skill/talent in their fingernails than Kovalev

[Agent Mulder]

Pacquiao has Algeri problems. He needs to focus on that fight before he can even think of facing a world class fighter like Floyd.

[Mr. Philadel]

MGM Grand, Las Vegas - WBC/WBA welterweight champion Floyd Mayweather Jr. (46-0, 26KOs) denied published reports that there are "secret negotiations" taking place for a potential mega-fight with WBO champion Manny Pacquiao.

Top Rank's CEO, Bob Arum, was quoted by several outlets as stating that there are "serious discussions" taking place, and both Showtime and HBO are onboard with the match. Mayweather says that information "is false."
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Duh....

[bigjavi973]

Flowmos actually think and believe in their hearts that pacquiao ducked mayweather.

[bigjavi973]

Absolutely right. Bro i cannot see how morons cant see this. :AYWOoD:

What I find more funny is that mayweather was the one that came out of retirement while pacquiao was fighting and winning. "but mayweather the a side doe". It was a low ball offer that he knew pacquiao wouldnt take.

[IMDAZED]

What I find more funny is that mayweather was the one that came out of retirement while pacquiao was fighting and winning. "but mayweather the a side doe". It was a low ball offer that he knew pacquiao wouldnt take.

50-50 was a lowball offer?