What wrong wit a danny vs lucas rematch?

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What case does Garcia need to make? At 140, he is the picture. Like it or not. (Hence why people call him out)

It's not my fault you guys didn't know Herrera would give Danny all kinds of trouble. The funny thing is people still downplay him because of their hate for Danny. Herrera gives everybody at 140 a tough hard fought 12 rounds, including Matthysse.

but he's the fake picture since he clearly lost to herrera. am i supposed to pretend that garcia is the best because golden boy paid off the judges? sorry i'm not going to do that. if he wants to rematch herrera that's fine except that's a low money fight. matthysse-garcia is a million dollar plus fight and the first fight was super controversial. make more money and settle who's really better without all the cheating/terrible reffing. everyone wins. garcia gets a lot of money and a chance to win fair and square, matthysse gets a chance for revenge, they all make a lot of money, the fans get a good fight(unless garcia lowblows and holds nonstop again)

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Without googling, who has Diery beat. He's faced Ortiz's level fighters

Wow he got dropped, and then destroyed him without losing a round. You have no clue what you're talking about.

What did Salka and Hererea do to earn a title fight?

I don't know who the hell Diery has fought. I know he was the mandatory for the IBF belt though right? Career 140 pounder? Again, I knew Herrera was gonna give Danny trouble because I've been following him for awhile now.

But **** all that. All of them have been taking **** fights! The point is Matthysse hasn't done anything to re-establish himself as the clear number 2 guy. If anything Herrera is more deserving of 2 at this point. The fight isn't nearly as big as it was last year and you know their both gonna want more money this time around. They need to make matthysse broner and Garcia Peterson. If they both win then do the rematch.

[Russian Crushin]

I don't know who the hell Diery has fought. I know he was the mandatory for the IBF belt though right? Career 140 pounder? Again, I knew Herrera was gonna give Danny trouble because I've been following him for awhile now.

But **** all that. All of them have been taking **** fights! The point is Matthysse hasn't done anything to re-establish himself as the clear number 2 guy. If anything Herrera is more deserving of 2 at this point. The fight isn't nearly as big as it was last year and you know their both gonna want more money this time around. They need to make matthysse broner and Garcia Peterson. If they both win then do the rematch.

And Ortiz was a career 140 pounder with way more KOs and fights and you're somehow criticizing him?

Lucas has been the clear #2 since KO-ing Peterson. Just about every Ranking online has it, ESPN, RING, BoxingScene, TBRB.

The fight is bigger than anybody Danny has fought since their fight, does he hate beating top guys and money?

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but he's the fake picture since he clearly lost to herrera. am i supposed to pretend that garcia is the best because golden boy paid off the judges? sorry i'm not going to do that. if he wants to rematch herrera that's fine except that's a low money fight. matthysse-garcia is a million dollar plus fight and the first fight was super controversial. make more money and settle who's really better without all the cheating/terrible reffing. everyone wins. garcia gets a lot of money and a chance to win fair and square, matthysse gets a chance for revenge, they all make a lot of money, the fans get a good fight(unless garcia lowblows and holds nonstop again)

The Herrera fight was more of a draw type fight to me. Like I said Herrera is a nightmare for anybody at 140. I had Danny winning a close but clear fight with Matthysse, fair and square. And the reason I say that is Matthysse was the one known as the dirty fighter going into that fight. To be clear I'm not against a rematch in the future. They could still do it at 47. It just wasn't that great of a fight to force the rematch so soon. Matthysse should have fought Herrera instead of Ortiz if he wanted the rematch next.

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And Ortiz was a career 140 pounder with way more KOs and fights and you're somehow criticizing him?

Lucas has been the clear #2 since KO-ing Peterson. Just about every Ranking online has it, ESPN, RING, BoxingScene, TBRB.

The fight is bigger than anybody Danny has fought since their fight, does he hate beating top guys and money?

I think a broner fight would bring Danny the most money but that doesn't make sense right now either. A Peterson fight would be worth just about as much and get him another belt. What really matters is, is the fight as big or bigger than the last time?

[daggum]

The Herrera fight was more of a draw type fight to me. Like I said Herrera is a nightmare for anybody at 140. I had Danny winning a close but clear fight with Matthysse, fair and square. And the reason I say that is Matthysse was the one known as the dirty fighter going into that fight. To be clear I'm not against a rematch in the future. They could still do it at 47. It just wasn't that great of a fight to force the rematch so soon. Matthysse should have fought Herrera instead of Ortiz if he wanted the rematch next.

ok but did you watch the fight? the one being dirty was garcia. he low blowed more than andrew golota, clinched everytime matthysse got close, rabbit punched him in between the ropes which led to a knockdown, and had a ref let him do all that. how do all those things add up to fair and square?

it wasn't great because one guy was lowblowing and holding non stop. who was that?

[daggum]

I think a broner fight would bring Danny the most money but that doesn't make sense right now either. A Peterson fight would be worth just about as much and get him another belt. What really matters is, is the fight as big or bigger than the last time?

how does making the most money not make sense? i thought this was a business? what happened? did the business fly off the rails at some point? if it makes money it makes sense. the great floyd mayweather will fight anyone who brings in the most money. he set the standard for all boxers to follow. well unless its a good opponent of course then there's some wiggle room. 7 million for margarito or 4 million for sharmba...hey guys lets rethink that whole boxing is a business motto...its just that make less and survive to fight another day isn't as catchy.

[-MEGA-]

I can't argue with both you ****ers right now. I'm tired and am loosing track to which posts I'm responding too. The bottom line is this. There was no reason for a rematch then or now. Just because Matthysse said he wants doesn't make it warranted. That's not to say that Matthysse couldn't take on another top 10 in his next fight to force it though. He's not far off just not there yet...

[-MEGA-]

how does making the most money not make sense? i thought this was a business? what happened? did the business fly off the rails at some point? if it makes money it makes sense. the great floyd mayweather will fight anyone who brings in the most money. he set the standard for all boxers to follow. well unless its a good opponent of course then there's some wiggle room. 7 million for margarito or 4 million for sharmba...hey guys lets rethink that whole boxing is a business motto...its just that make less and survive to fight another day isn't as catchy.

When did I say that? Boxing is a Sport first. Then the business aspect comes to play IMO. Again, what's the point in fighting a rematch for the same money as last time? That wouldn't be good business would it? If they both take the right fights their rematch would be bigger but they are not doing that.

[Canelo Phresh]

I can't argue with both you ****ers right now. I'm tired and am loosing track to which posts I'm responding too. The bottom line is this. There was no reason for a rematch then or now. Just because Matthysse said he wants doesn't make it warranted. That's not to say that Matthysse couldn't take on another top 10 in his next fight to force it though. He's not far off just not there yet...

Swagphag!