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Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View PostI never thought Roberto Ortiz was going to be good.
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Originally posted by FerFAL View PostYou're biased against argy boxers. ortiz matthysse had all the ingredients for a tough, long fight but Matthysse ended it with a beautiful liver shot, which is no fluke, he has done so many times before if you watch his fights. thats all there is to it, I don't get where the hate is coming from.
I was a fan of Matthysse - just think his fantards like you are absolute helmets.
Roberto Ortiz ******. He packed it in after 2 rounds. Call a spade a spade.
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Originally posted by FerFAL View PostYou're biased against argy boxers. ortiz matthysse had all the ingredients for a tough, long fight but Matthysse ended it with a beautiful liver shot, which is no fluke, he has done so many times before if you watch his fights. thats all there is to it, I don't get where the hate is coming from.
it was evident Ortiz had accomplished absolutely nothing of note and all of his ko's came against subpar competition. Anyone that truly follows the Machine knew he was going to walk through Ortiz.
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Originally posted by Dinamita 03 View PostNo it didn't
it was evident Ortiz had accomplished absolutely nothing of note and all of his ko's came against subpar competition. Anyone that truly follows the Machine knew he was going to walk through Ortiz.
unproven doesn't mean bad fighter
and there wasn't much footage on youtube to really build a case for/against Ortiz, I said this from the start, people were just throwing **** at the wall making bold predictions either way
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Originally posted by FerFAL View Posta couple hours ago ortiz was undefeated silver WBC, now he's a bum.let it go man, Khan has gone Ricky fatton on you.
ortiz was unproven, and you could argue is still unproven because even though he was stopped early, he didn't seem to be in agonizing pain when he stood up (though at the moment the punch landed, he looked like he wanted to die). i'm pretty sure he could've continued but i wasn't there getting blasted in the stomach
i wouldn't be surprised if the WBC mandated this a NC and ordered a rematch, Haymon would probably tell lucas to drop the belt because it's a garbage title anyways and doesn't mean ****
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Originally posted by joesaiditstrue View PostCanelo fought more bums to build his career than Ortiz did, it didn't automatically demote Canelo to "unproven bum" status
unproven doesn't mean bad fighter
and there wasn't much footage on youtube to really build a case for/against Ortiz, I said this from the start, people were just throwing **** at the wall making bold predictions either wayeven so Alvarez fought a current world champ in his third fight and plenty of known prospects to start off his career.
Ortiz wasn't going to put up a fight because he was fighting nobodies and getting dropped in the process. There's nothing special about ko fighters no one's ever heard of.
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Originally posted by joesaiditstrue View Postferfal, WBC & WBA hand out titles like candy on halloween, titles don't prove ****
ortiz was unproven, and you could argue is still unproven because even though he was stopped early, he didn't seem to be in agonizing pain when he stood up (though at the moment the punch landed, he looked like he wanted to die). i'm pretty sure he could've continued but i wasn't there getting blasted in the stomach
i wouldn't be surprised if the WBC mandated this a NC and ordered a rematch, Haymon would probably tell lucas to drop the belt because it's a garbage title anyways and doesn't mean ****
I had Matthysse beating Ortiz for obvious reasons, but I wasn't looking past him nor do I think his ko ratio is based on cab drivers alone. He'll, I think we haven't seen the last of that guy. As you say, a good livet punch is no joke. A similar punch cost Maidana the fight against Khan and nearly got him ko.
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