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  • Dirk Diggler UK
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    #201
    Originally posted by FerFAL
    a couple hours ago ortiz was undefeated silver WBC, now he's a bum.let it go man, Khan has gone Ricky fatton on you.
    I never thought Roberto Ortiz was going to be good.

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    • FerFAL
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      #202
      Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
      I never thought Roberto Ortiz was going to be good.
      You're biased against argy boxers. ortiz matthysse had all the ingredients for a tough, long fight but Matthysse ended it with a beautiful liver shot, which is no fluke, he has done so many times before if you watch his fights. thats all there is to it, I don't get where the hate is coming from.

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        #203
        Originally posted by FerFAL
        You're biased against argy boxers. ortiz matthysse had all the ingredients for a tough, long fight but Matthysse ended it with a beautiful liver shot, which is no fluke, he has done so many times before if you watch his fights. thats all there is to it, I don't get where the hate is coming from.
        Sergio Martinez is/was my favourite foreign fighter you mong!

        I was a fan of Matthysse - just think his fantards like you are absolute helmets.

        Roberto Ortiz ******. He packed it in after 2 rounds. Call a spade a spade.

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          #204
          Originally posted by FerFAL
          You're biased against argy boxers. ortiz matthysse had all the ingredients for a tough, long fight but Matthysse ended it with a beautiful liver shot, which is no fluke, he has done so many times before if you watch his fights. thats all there is to it, I don't get where the hate is coming from.
          No it didn't

          it was evident Ortiz had accomplished absolutely nothing of note and all of his ko's came against subpar competition. Anyone that truly follows the Machine knew he was going to walk through Ortiz.

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            #205
            Originally posted by Dinamita 03
            No it didn't

            it was evident Ortiz had accomplished absolutely nothing of note and all of his ko's came against subpar competition. Anyone that truly follows the Machine knew he was going to walk through Ortiz.
            Canelo fought more bums to build his career than Ortiz did, it didn't automatically demote Canelo to "unproven bum" status

            unproven doesn't mean bad fighter

            and there wasn't much footage on youtube to really build a case for/against Ortiz, I said this from the start, people were just throwing **** at the wall making bold predictions either way

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              #206
              Originally posted by FerFAL
              a couple hours ago ortiz was undefeated silver WBC, now he's a bum.let it go man, Khan has gone Ricky fatton on you.
              ferfal, WBC & WBA hand out titles like candy on halloween, titles don't prove ****

              ortiz was unproven, and you could argue is still unproven because even though he was stopped early, he didn't seem to be in agonizing pain when he stood up (though at the moment the punch landed, he looked like he wanted to die). i'm pretty sure he could've continued but i wasn't there getting blasted in the stomach

              i wouldn't be surprised if the WBC mandated this a NC and ordered a rematch, Haymon would probably tell lucas to drop the belt because it's a garbage title anyways and doesn't mean ****

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                #207
                Originally posted by joesaiditstrue
                Canelo fought more bums to build his career than Ortiz did, it didn't automatically demote Canelo to "unproven bum" status

                unproven doesn't mean bad fighter

                and there wasn't much footage on youtube to really build a case for/against Ortiz, I said this from the start, people were just throwing **** at the wall making bold predictions either way
                wtf does Canelo have to do in this conversation?? even so Alvarez fought a current world champ in his third fight and plenty of known prospects to start off his career.

                Ortiz wasn't going to put up a fight because he was fighting nobodies and getting dropped in the process. There's nothing special about ko fighters no one's ever heard of.

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                    #209
                    Originally posted by joesaiditstrue
                    ferfal, WBC & WBA hand out titles like candy on halloween, titles don't prove ****

                    ortiz was unproven, and you could argue is still unproven because even though he was stopped early, he didn't seem to be in agonizing pain when he stood up (though at the moment the punch landed, he looked like he wanted to die). i'm pretty sure he could've continued but i wasn't there getting blasted in the stomach

                    i wouldn't be surprised if the WBC mandated this a NC and ordered a rematch, Haymon would probably tell lucas to drop the belt because it's a garbage title anyways and doesn't mean ****
                    Of course they do, yet again Gift had to fight a #77 ranked nobody that didn't even have a "Halloween candy" title.
                    I had Matthysse beating Ortiz for obvious reasons, but I wasn't looking past him nor do I think his ko ratio is based on cab drivers alone. He'll, I think we haven't seen the last of that guy. As you say, a good livet punch is no joke. A similar punch cost Maidana the fight against Khan and nearly got him ko.

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                      #210
                      Originally posted by Freedom2014
                      On watching the replay...the KO punch didn't appear to be on the sweet spotm but it still put him down!

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