Comments Thread For: Pacquiao on Mayweather: He is Worried About His Record

[HeroBando]

Why would I concede? I am just showing you as the hypocrite that you are. All you have to do is look at Roach's comments after the 2nd fight and they tell you that they weren't interested in another fight with Marquez anytime soon.


What does 2011 have to do with it? Did he say it or not? Did he add, "but only if the fight is made in 2011"? Just looking for an excuse to be able to trash Floyd while still defending Manny for the same things. "Why don't you just say I concede?"



Wow, I see you are just as slow as Pac is when it comes to NEGOTIATING. Basically how it works is, one starts low, the other starts high and they meet somewhere in the middle. So, as Aria himself said...Floyd started at 40 mil and Pac could've negotiated, but decided not to. That didn't mean that Floyd expected that Pac would except the first offer. Same thing with Cotto. Cotto said 150 but that doesn't automatically mean he is comfortable with 150. If he was comfortable there, then why would he not fight Pacquiao at that weight? OBVIOUSLY he wasn't! But I'm the Dumba$$??

Indeed you're the dumba$$ or worse.

1. So now the issue is post 2nd fight? Nice backtrack, you said he didnt wanna give him a rematch at all, clearly untrue considering the 750k offer
2. No **** the timing matters, flo mo ******. Canelo couldnt even physically make 150 in 2013, even if he could in 2011
3. Cotto DEMANDED 150 from Marg, cretin. How can you not grasp this simple fact? Why would a fighter make such an unusual, probably unprecedented request if he wasnt comfortable there? Cotto likes being drained?

[E. O. Wilson]

boring fight

[Southpawology]

Floyd will never fight manny because his health comes first and manny will never fight floyd because bob arum is his pimp.

[megadeth]

The "1st one" as you put it, the whole ped/testing situation has PROVEN to be a sham by floyd himself once he hired ariza.
"Floyd is doing that as a ploy doe"
They believe that as much as they believe that "floyd fought that way for the fans doe"

How does this prove that it was a sham? Does Floyd working with Ariza mean that Ariza will FORCE him to take PED's? Not to mention, since you are just coming up with this excuse since Floyd was seen with Ariza, I take it that you had a totally different opinion of the matter before that, correct? Or was it just another excuse?

By the way, what are you gonna say if Floyd fights a totally different fight, moves and makes it look like the Guerrero fight?

[megadeth]

Indeed you're the dumba$$ or worse.

1. So now the issue is post 2nd fight? Nice backtrack, you said he didnt wanna give him a rematch at all, clearly untrue considering the 750k offer
2. No **** the timing matters, flo mo ******. Canelo couldnt even physically make 150 in 2013, even if he could in 2011
3. Cotto DEMANDED 150 from Marg, cretin. How can you not grasp this simple fact? Why would a fighter make such an unusual, probably unprecedented request if he wasnt comfortable there? Cotto likes being drained?

1. Our discussion was about POST 2nd fight. You know, the one where there was a gap of 3 years between fights? There was an offer, so that means it was legit? That's what you're saying? Fine, then again we go back to the 40 mil. Must've been legit, cuz he offerered it, RIGHT? See what a hypocrite you are? It only applies to Pac right?

2. How the hell do you know what Canelo could make in 2013? Are you his nutritionist? OK, didn't think so!

3. How did Cotto DEMAND 150 and wind up with 153 CRETIN? So how can YOU not grasp that? Cotto was holding all the cards, Margarito had ZERO leverage. Its called negotiating, but you are too slow to understand that. If he is so comfortable there, again, WHY DIDN'T HE ACCEPT THE FIGHT WITH PAC AT THAT WEIGHT?? WHY HAS HE NOT WEIGHED IN AT HIS "COMFORTABLE WEIGHT IN FOREVER???

[SamuraiSam]

Its kind of hard to call someone out for ducking when you are the guy that refused the fight twice.

Oh man, come on, Dunn...that stubborn, hard-headed, unbendable, dogmatic conviction of yours for that standard fallback line, "...refused the fight twice," is getting really old, cliche and irrelevant to the real world timeline of current events. You've posted the same tired phrase in so many other threads beside this one as your bottom line finality to end your rebuttals. While people argue for the fight to be made, your fallback line (which is a lame rationalization to back up Floyd and his minions' excuse) appears to be a blatant argument and justification for the fight NOT being made or renegotiated. (What does it say about the people who DON'T want to see this fight be made?)

Okay, let's pretend for the moment you're absolutely correct and you were right this whole time about "refusing the fight twice" (and ignoring the context in which the offers were made objectionable). Let's assume your ego gets satisfied from receiving all the high praises, props, back slapping, head patting and congratulations showered upon you at your victory party thrown by Floyd/TMT/Haymon & your fellow minions...and you can further gloat over everyone who opposed you conceding defeat & groveling at your feet in apology for the sacrilege of saying you're wrong about your dogmatic BS. [Even though the reality points to there being more truthful CONTEXT behind your stubborn position on the refusal of unprecedented OST (2009) and the lowball $40mil (January 2012), we'll play along and pretend you're right.]

With your ego satisfied, now riddle me this, Batman...Does time stand still, does history become frozen in time, do further attempts at negotiation or responses to more recent challenges go unanswered simply because "...he refused the fight twice"??? Does your ego stay frozen, living & glorifying in the past history between 2009 to 2012? Do the challenges that Pacquiao issued since January 2012 no longer count and stay irrelevant simply because there were two prior failures along our real world timeline, where life & time marches on, with new circumstances and realities presenting themselves as openings for renewed negotiations? Or do you still maintain that this fight should NOT happen because he "refused twice" over two years ago???

Statements & challenges have been made since Jan. 2012, and written or audio/video documentation can easily be posted here for evidence. But I'm a busy person with a life outside of NSB, so I don't have all the time or energy to Google for every article and/or video for all the evidence, but I'm sure you know they're out there; and NSB members have already posted many of them in this site. So all I can say for certainty is that continued silence & unresponsiveness (or new excuses made) to the challenges presented since Jan. 2012 can easily be perceived as "ducking."

'Nuff said.

[Mr. Punch-Out!!]

Its something wrong whenever two of the best fighters in their era talk about fighting each other only when they are about to have separate fights for YEARS and never fight. what you mean its nothing wrong with that?? If you don't think it's a problem then you are part of the problem

You can still want the fight to happen (I know I do) but don't get mad every time they say something about each other. People are going to take shots at each other and that happens all the time.

[PAC-BOY]

[HeroBando]

1. Our discussion was about POST 2nd fight. You know, the one where there was a gap of 3 years between fights? There was an offer, so that means it was legit? That's what you're saying? Fine, then again we go back to the 40 mil. Must've been legit, cuz he offerered it, RIGHT? See what a hypocrite you are? It only applies to Pac right?

2. How the hell do you know what Canelo could make in 2013? Are you his nutritionist? OK, didn't think so!

3. How did Cotto DEMAND 150 and wind up with 153 CRETIN? So how can YOU not grasp that? Cotto was holding all the cards, Margarito had ZERO leverage. Its called negotiating, but you are too slow to understand that. If he is so comfortable there, again, WHY DIDN'T HE ACCEPT THE FIGHT WITH PAC AT THAT WEIGHT?? WHY HAS HE NOT WEIGHED IN AT HIS "COMFORTABLE WEIGHT IN FOREVER???

1. So you're crying about Pac not giving the guy an immediate rematch after he fought his 2x? GTFO. Within 3 months Pac fought at 135, and by the time Marquez had his next fight Pac had signed to come in as underdog (massive in expert opinion) vs DLH at 147. GTFO again.

1.5. Pac's previous and next fight he made 26m. After Arum got his share for being cut out of the promotion, Pac is getting 29m with that flat fee offer, a pitiful bump over his usual purse, for the biggest money fight of all time. That's why that offer was a joke. Now I know flo mos can't do math, but pull up your calculator and plug this in dumba$$: 29/26 vs 750/30.

2. Okay ******. Make a poll asking if Canelo could make 150 healthy in 2013. Do you understand that people grow, especially 21yr olds? Floyd could make 130 way back, you think he can make that still?

3. Here's how idiot:

http://espn.go.com/boxing/story/_/id...onio-margarito

He even demanded a 160 rehydration clause! What was the point, to make himself uncomfortable? Of course he didn't accept the Pac rematch cause he didn't wanna get smashed again. the first one was very traumatizing. Remember he said the money wasn't right either, then went on to look like a midget and lose to Trout for 1m lol.

[Ruthless One]

Oh man, come on, Dunn...that stubborn, hard-headed, unbendable, dogmatic conviction of yours for that standard fallback line, "...refused the fight twice," is getting really old, cliche and irrelevant to the real world timeline of current events. You've posted the same tired phrase in so many other threads beside this one as your bottom line finality to end your rebuttals. While people argue for the fight to be made, your fallback line (which is a lame rationalization to back up Floyd and his minions' excuse) appears to be a blatant argument and justification for the fight NOT being made or renegotiated. (What does it say about the people who DON'T want to see this fight be made?)

Okay, let's pretend for the moment you're absolutely correct and you were right this whole time about "refusing the fight twice" (and ignoring the context in which the offers were made objectionable). Let's assume your ego gets satisfied from receiving all the high praises, props, back slapping, head patting and congratulations showered upon you at your victory party thrown by Floyd/TMT/Haymon & your fellow minions...and you can further gloat over everyone who opposed you conceding defeat & groveling at your feet in apology for the sacrilege of saying you're wrong about your dogmatic BS. [Even though the reality points to there being more truthful CONTEXT behind your stubborn position on the refusal of unprecedented OST (2009) and the lowball $40mil (January 2012), we'll play along and pretend you're right.]

With your ego satisfied, now riddle me this, Batman...Does time stand still, does history become frozen in time, do further attempts at negotiation or responses to more recent challenges go unanswered simply because "...he refused the fight twice"??? Does your ego stay frozen, living & glorifying in the past history between 2009 to 2012? Do the challenges that Pacquiao issued since January 2012 no longer count and stay irrelevant simply because there were two prior failures along our real world timeline, where life & time marches on, with new circumstances and realities presenting themselves as openings for renewed negotiations? Or do you still maintain that this fight should NOT happen because he "refused twice" over two years ago???

Statements & challenges have been made since Jan. 2012, and written or audio/video documentation can easily be posted here for evidence. But I'm a busy person with a life outside of NSB, so I don't have all the time or energy to Google for every article and/or video for all the evidence, but I'm sure you know they're out there; and NSB members have already posted many of them in this site. So all I can say for certainty is that continued silence & unresponsiveness (or new excuses made) to the challenges presented since Jan. 2012 can easily be perceived as "ducking."

'Nuff said.

Too much common sense for the NSB forums, man, but well-said.