What titleholders never fight in foreign countries?

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  • Wuckoo
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    #21
    Originally posted by Tedkidlewis
    I'm an American fight fan but growing up I was taught how our champions would travel the world and would demonstrate how good they were, and how they were love in other countries. I can understand the frustration, these fighters today lack the courage of fighters from yesterday. Ray Robinson and Ali woulda beat your ass in your mamas house if they had to.
    Yeah, it's a shame they don't do that now

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    • PACnPBFsuck
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      #22
      Originally posted by PBP
      Uchiyama never fought outside of Japan. I'm sure there are others as well.
      Was about to mention him.

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      • The Hammer
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        #23
        Originally posted by DreamFYS
        Well technically Huck has fought every single fight in a foreign country as he was born in Serbia.
        But he's lived in Germany since he was a small child, and is a German citizen.

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        • Weebler I
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          #24
          Originally posted by Tedkidlewis
          The thing with Kovalev is he's a US citizen and has always fought here as a pro. So this is home for him. GGG fought most of his early fights in Germany but has now has been adopted by the US, I think he's either a citizen or is becoming one.
          I can see Kovalev going back home to Russia (maybe fight in Moscow) to have a big fight, he said his profile greatly increased there after the Hopkins fight.

          Duva had planned for him to fight over there after Agnew but he suffered two deep cuts in that fight.

          Originally posted by LarryXXX
          In all honestly...Americans do not have to go anywhere..you have to come to America to fight the best IN ALL CASES EXCEPT WLADAMIR
          * Wladimir

          and you're wide of the mark (sound like a casual).
          Last edited by Weebler I; 01-22-2015, 06:34 AM.

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          • kiaba360
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            #25
            Juergen Braehmer....

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            • just the facts
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              #26
              Originally posted by Freedom.
              Without a home ref who permits him to foul, how successful would Ward be?
              I figured a poorly disguised stab at Ward was the root of this thread. This confirms it.

              You can hate Ward all day but the fact remains, no one without an agenda that saw the Ward/Froch or Ward/Kessler fight can honestly believe either Froch or Kessler could ever beat Ward. EVER!

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                #27
                Originally posted by just the facts
                I figured a poorly disguised stab at Ward was the root of this thread. This confirms it.

                You can hate Ward all day but the fact remains, no one without an agenda that saw the Ward/Froch or Ward/Kessler fight can honestly believe either Froch or Kessler could ever beat Ward. EVER!
                A true champion travels. As someone else mentioned, past American greats left and won outside America.

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                • PK3434
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by LarryXXX
                  Why in the hell do Americans need to go to China, Europe or Asia to be big???
                  If you don't have a fanbase, its a good idea.

                  A lot of the American contenders/champions can't sell tickets.

                  Can Anthony Dirrell draw more than 500 people to any event? No
                  Shawn Porter, 1000? Probably not.

                  Even Adrien Broner, who is quite well known, could only sell like 6,000 tickets in freaking Cincinnati while Golovkin sold almost 10,000 in LA, thousands and thousands of miles from his homeland.

                  Traveling earns respect and can create new fans and open a fighter to new markets..Some fighters do understand this but some just don't want to take the risk.

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                  • MDPopescu
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Freedom.
                    What current titleholders have never fought for a title or defended their title in a foreign country?

                    ...

                    Andre Ward

                    ...
                    Wrong: back in 2007, Ward traveled a long way to the beautiful island of Saint Lucia (which somehow belongs to the defunct British Empire)... There, Andre Ward managed to KO the dangerous Roger Cantrell (who, at the time, held a record of 12-0; 8 KOs).

                    Do not misinform the general public!

                    (later edit: it's true that Ward was no title holder back then, but whatever.)
                    Last edited by MDPopescu; 01-22-2015, 11:49 AM.

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                    • The Hammer
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by MDPopescu
                      Wrong: back in 2007, Ward traveled a long way to the beautiful island of Saint Lucia (which somehow belongs to the defunct British Empire)... There, Andre Ward managed to KO the dangerous Roger Cantrell (who, at the time, held a record of 12-0; 8 KOs).

                      Do not misinform the general public!
                      Read my opening post more carefully. That fight wasn't for a title.

                      And it was a quick stoppage, Ward threw a flurry of feathery punches. So the ref must have been shady in Ward's favor even though the fight happened on an offshore Island.

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