What exactly constitutes "running?"

[Wuckoo]

I've just thought about this and I can't understand what people categorise as running in boxing.

If someone outmoves his opponent and lands more punches then he has won the round. When Algieri fought Provo he landed way more punches but people just said "look at his face who would you have rather been?" Well let's apply this logic to rigo vs donaire. Rigo outlanded donaire and badly marked his face but some still said he was running despite donaire being hesitant to throw anything. If you were Algieri would you just plant your feet and stand still against a known puncher? No, you would move around and disrupt him with potshots and some combinations.

With the Lara canelo fight (which I believe canelo only just won) people claimed Lara was running when in fact he was using lateral movement. When pacquiao did this against rios I saw no complaints at all.

The main point I'm trying to make is if you were really scared of your opponent you wouldn't get in the ring with him. This isn't a bar fight where only one is left standing, this is boxing. I like all action fights as much as I like boxing chess matches but now if seems like you can't even sidestep without being called a runner.

[bojangles1987]

Pretty simple. If you are constantly backpedaling just to avoid the fight, rather than to open up your own offensive opportunities, you're running.

Like Love last night, or Lara against Alvarez. Both guys ran just to avoid the fight, with no plan behind that movement.

[jas]

When you are constantly either out of range or making your opponent miss yet not trying to counter him.

[Wuckoo]

Pretty simple. If you are constantly backpedaling just to avoid the fight, rather than to open up your own offensive opportunities, you're running.

Like Love last night, or Lara against Alvarez. Both guys ran just to avoid the fight, with no plan behind that movement.

I can admit Lara was inactive in the last 4 rounds but people act like he was avoiding the entire fight. I will say that the old amateur scoring system kind of encouraged boxers to Coast once they had a lead which I feel kind of influenced Lara.

[Wuckoo]

When you are constantly either out of range or making your opponent miss yet not trying to counter him.

See that's what I consider avoiding the fight but I rarely see anyone use that truthfully. Most if the time they just get annoyed when their hard hitting favourite is being outlanded and unable to ko their opponent

[Doctor_Tenma]

When you don't seize the opportunity to counter after making your opponent miss and instead continue to distance yourself, how can that not be considered running?

Also, we need to stop comparing Lara's approach to Algieri and Rigondeaux, it's entirely different. Algieri punches whilst on the move, doesn't stop pumping the jab and Rigondeaux stays within range after he's made you miss and counters beautifully.

[New England]

it's liek art, ****, violence, etc.


you know it when you see it.


when i see a fighter moving several steps out of range in constancy, without any attempt to engage, i'll generally consider him running.

[titan m]

To me its throwing a punch or two then backing off to the point where you're 10 or 15 feet away from your opponent then repeating it for most of the fight. Its one thing to punch and get out of range for the counter punches but some times guys take it too far, when you watch a fight and more time is spent out of punching range than in it, there is a problem.

[DondiNeverLeft]

Pretty simple. If you are constantly backpedaling just to avoid the fight, rather than to open up your own offensive opportunities, you're running.

Like Love last night, or Lara against Alvarez. Both guys ran just to avoid the fight, with no plan behind that movement.

See- last 3-4 rounds of Trinidad vs Hoya
Or half of Lara vs Canelo

This is coming from a fan who loves the sweet science and boxing in general.

I see the entertainment value in the caveman Margarito/ Brandon Rios style but it's not the very essence of top boxing style.
It's more like, I have a harder skull and can take your punches more than you can take mine..style....

[New England]

When you don't seize the opportunity to counter after making your opponent miss and instead continue to distance yourself, how can that not be considered running?

Also, we need to stop comparing Lara's approach to Algieri and Rigondeaux, it's entirely different. Algieri punches whilst on the move, doesn't stop pumping the jab and Rigondeaux stays within range after he's made you miss and counters beautifully.

rigondeaux didn't always do this, but he does now. i honestly think it came down to conditioning, early on. the guy was an amateur for so long that he needed a while to adjust to a 12 round fight.