Originally posted by therealpugilist
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So its OK pac fans to accuse Marquez of PED but not Pac Man Big double standard
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Originally posted by LarryXXX View PostBut what about when Manny was knocking people around left and right like he was a mini Tyson?
Was it at 40?
Was it after he got a well known PEDs expert who still says "I still consider PEDs alright because it levels the playing field?
Was it after getting acne all over his body at 40+?
Manny knocked down Marquez in 3 of 4 fights. 5 times. Very consistent.
Marquez had 0 knock downs in 3 fights. 2 in the last fight at 40 years old.
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View PostPac Fans dismissed any notion or possibility of Manny Pacquaio using the juice.
Even his trainer said his strength and conditioning coach was shady, Alex Ariza.
But soon as their hero gets his ass knocked out, then they accuse Marquez, a fighter that has had his number for years and landed that same punch several times a cheat.
How in the hell are you not gonna know what your fight is ingesting? That's negligence or Roach didn't care how Manny won, but as long as he won
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Originally posted by Reloaded View PostIts ok they are only children with a hero , they act like schoolgirls .
What happened to your SIG about CWs are evil? Your school principal told you that you were not allowed to do that anymore because your hero does it too?
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Originally posted by therealpugilist View PostPac Fans dismissed any notion or possibility of Manny Pacquaio using the juice.
Even his trainer said his strength and conditioning coach was shady, Alex Ariza.
But soon as their hero gets his ass knocked out, then they accuse Marquez, a fighter that has had his number for years and landed that same punch several times a cheat.
How in the hell are you not gonna know what your fight is ingesting? That's negligence or Roach didn't care how Manny won, but as long as he won
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Originally posted by ADP02 View PostBy Floyd inviting Ariza, he is telling you that it was all a sham in 2009. Floyd doesn't really think that Ariza is giving PEDs because if that were the case, Floyd would not be inviting him. This makes sense to everyone except Floyd fans!
Marquez has a trainer who admitted to giving all kinds of PEDs and knowing about the subject so so well that he laughs and admits that he knows of 20 ways to mask PEDs so that it would be undetectable. Furthermore, he has given them to athletes who went on to win gold medals in the Olympics without testing positive for PEDs.
Marquez has shown that he would go as far as drinking urine because he said that someone told him that it's good for him. So now comes Memo then acne in his 40s then one can see the body transformation, then the Knocking down not once but TWICE when he never ever knocked Manny down in 3 previous fights???
There is no problem in being su****ious about Manny even though we all know that it was Floyd and company who started that rumor and his fans blindly followed and that has come FULL CIRCLE this week with videos of Ariza massaging/stretching Floyd and joining him for a run at 3am...... whoa!!!
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but to not think that what Marquez did is NOT su****ious is just being naïve or you are a huge fan of his who is in denial. I have rooted and liked Marquez from way way back and even rooted for him to come back after the first 3 knock downs in his first fight with Manny .... but lets be real here for a second!!!
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Well I really like and respect both fighters and that point has always befuddled me too.
The evidence for Pac using is extremely strong, so I can't understand why any Pac Fan would exclusively label Marquez a user when it's straight out hypocritical.
My opinion is they both use.
My opinion is that they are very evenly matched warriors. (evidenced by how closely contested they were over multiple matches).
My opinion is that Marquez simply found him and got him good. That happens, it's boxing.
Marquez is a truly great fighter and it's no shame to either be caught hard by or struggle with such a boxer.
We are talking about the upper echelons of boxing excellence here. If there was to ever be a Pacquiao/Marquez 5, you can bet I'll be watching!!
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