So its OK pac fans to accuse Marquez of PED but not Pac Man Big double standard

[PAC-BOY]

Pac Fans dismissed any notion or possibility of Manny Pacquaio using the juice.

Even his trainer said his strength and conditioning coach was shady, Alex Ariza.

But soon as their hero gets his ass knocked out, then they accuse Marquez, a fighter that has had his number for years and landed that same punch several times a cheat.

How in the hell are you not gonna know what your fight is ingesting? That's negligence or Roach didn't care how Manny won, but as long as he won

he did get caught doing PEP though...

[HanzGruber]

What do u idiots get about the Floyd/ ariza thing. PAC ducked testing for 5 years. Floyd didn't. It's not the same thing at all

[Divine Hammer]

pac never hired a highly skilled and experienced steroid scientist.

[Wuckoo]

pac never hired a highly skilled and experienced steroid scientist.

But he did hire Justin fortune, a guy who had used peds in the past.

[Divine Hammer]

But he did hire Justin fortune, a guy who had used peds in the past.

not even close to the same thing. justin fortune tested positive way back in australia during his weight lifting days plus what sense would it make to hire a guy who got caught using steroids to dope you??? clearly he isn't good enough to avoid getting caught himself.

also pac didn't hire fortune, roach did. so most likely pac didn't even know about fortune's past whereas marquez knowingly hired a guy that was part of one of the biggest doping scandals.

and pac did VADA testing for rios and extra testing for bradley 2 while with fortune and he never tested positive.

being a highly skilled and experience steroid scientist who claims to make undetectable PEDs >>>>>>>>> being caught for taking steroids

just face it. marquez was frustrated he couldn't beat pacquiao fairly. so he hires a well known and expert steroid scientist to help him get that extra boost. there are plenty of clean S&Cs out there but marquez instead chose a steroid scientist.

[Jcsuper]

why are you floyd **** riders not accusing floyd then? afterall according you idiots, manny is on peds by ariza, now floyd is with him, come on ******, type.

What simpleton like you and your friends (who now account for 98% of this site since all the decent posters left in the last 6 years when this site turned to crap) don't understand is that Floyd is asking and willing to be tested with Ariza while Pac refused the biggest payday and biggest fight in history over a blood test, and in the process filed a lawsuit against the other guy.

So this is totally not the same thing. To be the same thing, Floyd would hire Ariza, say to Maidana that there would be no blood test, and if team Maidana said something about it Floyd would sue them.

[Wuckoo]

not even close to the same thing. justin fortune tested positive way back in australia during his weight lifting days plus what sense would it make to hire a guy who got caught using steroids to dope you??? clearly he isn't good enough to avoid getting caught himself.

also pac didn't hire fortune, roach did. so most likely pac didn't even know about fortune's past whereas marquez knowingly hired a guy that was part of one of the biggest doping scandals.

and pac did VADA testing for rios and extra testing for bradley 2 while with fortune and he never tested positive.

being a highly skilled and experience steroid scientist who claims to make undetectable PEDs >>>>>>>>> being caught for taking steroids

just face it. marquez was frustrated he couldn't beat pacquiao fairly. so he hires a well known and expert steroid scientist to help him get that extra boost. there are plenty of clean S&Cs out there but marquez instead chose a steroid scientist.

So you say why would Manny hire a known PED user if he was using peds then go on to say Marquez must be using peds because he was working with a known PED user. Ok.....


I don't deny that both are su****ious. But how do you know nacho didn't hire herredia?

I don't understand the logic in your arguments because you justify pac hiring a PED user but not Marquez? Why does it matter what days fortune used peds the fact is he will now how they work. So don't act like both aren't su****ious. Be a sensible pac fan.

[Ruthless One]

why are you floyd **** riders not accusing floyd then? afterall according you idiots, manny is on peds by ariza, now floyd is with him, come on ******, type.

You can tell who the Floyd fans are vs. the Floyd worshipers with how they react to what Floyd does. Even if he is their favorite boxer, the true fans are able to criticize him when he does something wrong but with the Floyd worshipers, he can do no wrong no matter what.

If Manny and JMM working with Ariza = suspected of using PEDs

then:

Floyd working with Ariza = su****ious as well

What's so hard to understand about that? Yes, there could be some mind games going on but it's still su****ious and does not look good for Floyd.

[Beercules]

What do u idiots get about the Floyd/ ariza thing. PAC ducked testing for 5 years. Floyd didn't. It's not the same thing at all

Floyd had failed 3 a samples B.

[Jcsuper]

Floyd had failed 3 a samples B.

Speculations.

Pac didnt want anything to do with testing : Fact