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  • dray435
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    #71
    Originally posted by HeroBando
    Is Hopkins an ATG? Drew Mercado, KDed 2x. Would never amount to anything, right?

    It's pretty much been like that against higher rated comp since Ouma, brutal dominant stoppages (Ouma's was only brutal). That said, there's a huge gulf between Hagler and Miranda, you understand?
    The hopkins of old is not the hopkins of today although older hopkins is now better than he has ever been. Do you understand? I have been a fan of boxing for at least 32 years and know a great fighter when I see one and ggg is not an all time great fighter. And what about rosado he and stevens? both are b level fighters but those were not dominating performances on gggs part but competitive fights, and both their corners threw in the towels the blood was an issue with rosado because he is a bleeder and stamina was the issue with stevens. GGG couldnt ko either fighter, rosado has been stopped by angulo but the great ggg couldn't stop him? No do you understand that ggg does not have the makings of a great fighter? If not, you will, because as soon as he is matched tough he will be eventually exposed I want to see him in with a real threat like froch if he beats froch then we can maybe start talking hall of fame fighter.

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    • daggum
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      #72
      Originally posted by dray435
      Do you think a fighter like ouma would have been competitive with marvin hagler? Of course you don't he would have been brutally stopped in 4-5 rds. That's what all time great fighters do crush and dominate c and b level fighters in dominant fashion not struggle with them. Watch the fights of past all time greats and that's what you will see dominant performances against c and b level fighters not competitive fights until the c or b level fighter tires or his corner throws in the towel. Dominant brutal stoppages or one sided beat downs is what you will see in most cases.
      but hagler lost to willie monroe and bobby watts early in his career. are they A level fighters?

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        #73
        Originally posted by dray435
        The hopkins of old is not the hopkins of today although older hopkins is now better than he has ever been. Do you understand? I have been a fan of boxing for at least 32 years and know a great fighter when I see one and ggg is not an all time great fighter. And what about rosado he and stevens? both are b level fighters but those were not dominating performances on gggs part but competitive fights, and both their corners threw in the towels the blood was an issue with rosado because he is a bleeder and stamina was the issue with stevens. GGG couldnt ko either fighter, rosado has been stopped by angulo but the great ggg couldn't stop him? No do you understand that ggg does not have the makings of a great fighter? If not, you will, because as soon as he is matched tough he will be eventually exposed I want to see him in with a real threat like froch if he beats froch then we can maybe start talking hall of fame fighter.
        do you have eyeballs? how were those competitive fights troll boy? he won every round and battered them. rosado's corner was screaming he's going to kill your son.

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        • dray435
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          #74
          Originally posted by daggum
          but hagler lost to willie monroe and bobby watts early in his career. are they A level fighters?
          Many believe both those fights were robberies most who witnessed those fights will tell you hagler clearly wont those fights, and hagler came back to avenge both losses by brutal knockouts second rd knockouts if I'm not mistaken.

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          • HeroBando
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            #75
            Originally posted by dray435
            The hopkins of old is not the hopkins of today although older hopkins is now better than he has ever been. Do you understand? I have been a fan of boxing for at least 32 years and know a great fighter when I see one and ggg is not an all time great fighter. And what about rosado he and stevens? both are b level fighters but those were not dominating performances on gggs part but competitive fights, and both their corners threw in the towels the blood was an issue with rosado because he is a bleeder and stamina was the issue with stevens. GGG couldnt ko either fighter, rosado has been stopped by angulo but the great ggg couldn't stop him? No do you understand that ggg does not have the makings of a great fighter? If not, you will, because as soon as he is matched tough he will be eventually exposed I want to see him in with a real threat like froch if he beats froch then we can maybe start talking hall of fame fighter.
            GGG had just started working with Sanchez, barred from fighting in 1st world, slept at the airport in Panama. It's a one off. He's also gotten better, like Hopkins or Ward etc.

            I'm not saying he's an ATG in the making, I don't give a ****. But neither Rosado nor Stevens were competitive, dumba$$. You'd have to be generous to give either a round. He did stop Rosado, , remember "We gotta stop it, your son is gonna die"? For looking like **** vs Stevens, see Dirrell.

            Here's what Froch said about fighting GGG:



            And here's what his promoter said:

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              #76
              Originally posted by daggum
              do you have eyeballs? how were those competitive fights troll boy? he won every round and battered them. rosado's corner was screaming he's going to kill your son.
              Shut up clown that was a competitive fight for as long as it lasted the blood made it look much worse than it was and if any one is the troll you are. If saw my son bleeding like that I would probably panic also. You are obviously green and dont know boxing do yourself a favor and get some sleep, come back and discuss boxing when you have learned something about the sport.

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                #77
                Originally posted by Hougigo
                Yea wasn't he standing eye level with JCC Jr?

                Junior's height has been inflated from 5'11 up to 6'1 over the last couple of years. You'd be inclined to believe the latter mark if it not for the fact that he was noticeably shorter than Andy Lee.

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                • HeroBando
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by dray435
                  Shut up clown that was a competitive fight for as long as it lasted the blood made it look much worse than it was and if any one is the troll you are. If saw my son bleeding like that I would probably panic also. You are obviously green and dont know boxing do yourself a favor and get some sleep, come back and discuss boxing when you have learned something about the sport.
                  It wasn't his father, it was his trainer yelling at the father he was gonna die. And cuts dont kill. I doubt you even seen the fight

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                  • HeroBando
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by dray435
                    Many believe both those fights were robberies most who witnessed those fights will tell you hagler clearly wont those fights, and hagler came back to avenge both losses by brutal knockouts second rd knockouts if I'm not mistaken.
                    Seems like even Hagler level ATGs are not dominant every time out

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                    • dray435
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                      #80
                      Originally posted by HeroBando
                      GGG had just started working with Sanchez, barred from fighting in 1st world, slept at the airport in Panama. It's a one off. He's also gotten better, like Hopkins or Ward etc.

                      I'm not saying he's an ATG in the making, I don't give a ****. But neither Rosado nor Stevens were competitive, dumba$$. You'd have to be generous to give either a round. He did stop Rosado, , remember "We gotta stop it, your son is gonna die"? For looking like **** vs Stevens, see Dirrell.

                      Here's what Froch said about fighting GGG:



                      And here's what his promoter said:

                      http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=651125
                      Listen you ****** clown get a life and stop responded to my post with unintelligent statements based on lack of boxing knowledge and boxing history. You say you dont care if ggg will be an all time great but you always find my post and debate me, but when I introduce facts you get upset and throw a hissy fit. I dont need sensitive gay boys trolling my post only to get upset when they are educated about the reality of what great fighters really are and what they look like. Gets some sleep and stop trolling and responding to my post. If this was facebook I would block you.Get lost go play grand theft auto or something.

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