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  • dray435
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    #61
    Originally posted by HeroBando
    So why did you repeatedly cite his poor past performances when you had only 1 in mind? It happens, it's not like he got dropped 2x and drew with Mercado. He stopped and near murdered a very tough former champ, in his worst outing by far.

    Hey good luck with that Miranda comparison. I hear he had a stellar amateur career.
    In reality he struggled with a slow well past his prime junior middle weight in ouma, and the amateurs aint the pros were talking about the pro ranks they are like night and day.

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    • gabrielmolilulu
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      #62
      Here I found the video of "A los Golpes" with GGG and Veneno...I don't know how to embed the link..

      http://********/HeN3xAr9P0I?list=UUi...W3gbFHZfvD-ePg

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        #63
        Originally posted by dray435
        In reality he struggled with a slow well past his prime junior middle weight in ouma, and the amateurs aint the pros were talking about the pro ranks they are like night and day.
        Well ok, so you were full of **** when talking about him looking poor in past performances. It was only 1, and it happens. Like I said, at least he won via brutal stoppage, not lost vs gatekeeper like Stevenson, or got dropped by him like Ward, Kovalev etc.

        All the rival promoters, fighters can see he's highly skilled, but some red karma, likely alt thinks he's a Miranda level caveman. Who to believe?

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        • Hougigo
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          #64
          Originally posted by gabrielmolilulu
          Here I found the video of "A los Golpes" with GGG and Veneno...I don't know how to embed the link..

          http://********/HeN3xAr9P0I?list=UUi...W3gbFHZfvD-ePg

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          • dray435
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            #65
            Originally posted by HeroBando
            Well ok, so you were full of **** when talking about him looking poor in past performances. It was only 1, and it happens. Like I said, at least he won via brutal stoppage, not lost vs gatekeeper like Stevenson, or got dropped by him like Ward, Kovalev etc.

            All the rival promoters, fighters can see he's highly skilled, but some red karma, likely alt thinks he's a Miranda level caveman. Who to believe?
            Ouma was never a big puncher ouma has taken so much punishment from previous fights so much so that it appeared to have affected his reflexes also, if ggg was this killer he should have dominated that version of ouma but he didnt.

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            • HeroBando
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              #66
              Originally posted by dray435
              Ouma was never a big puncher ouma has taken so much punishment from previous fights so much so that it appeared to have affected his reflexes also, if ggg was this killer he should have dominated that version of ouma but he didnt.
              That's probably why G chose to go toe to toe, cause it's a losing battle for light punching Ouma. And ****, put him in the hospital and retired him. So anyway, he didn't look good that time but for an off night, he won very convincingly. Other top fighters did much worse on their off nights.

              You're conceding him the MW division, so he's gotta be pretty damn good.

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              • dray435
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                #67
                Originally posted by HeroBando
                Well ok, so you were full of **** when talking about him looking poor in past performances. It was only 1, and it happens. Like I said, at least he won via brutal stoppage, not lost vs gatekeeper like Stevenson, or got dropped by him like Ward, Kovalev etc.

                All the rival promoters, fighters can see he's highly skilled, but some red karma, likely alt thinks he's a Miranda level caveman. Who to believe?
                Do you think a fighter like ouma would have been competitive with marvin hagler? Of course you don't he would have been brutally stopped in 4-5 rds. That's what all time great fighters do crush and dominate c and b level fighters in dominant fashion not struggle with them. Watch the fights of past all time greats and that's what you will see dominant performances against c and b level fighters not competitive fights until the c or b level fighter tires or his corner throws in the towel. Dominant brutal stoppages or one sided beat downs is what you will see in most cases.

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                • HeroBando
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by dray435
                  Do you think a fighter like ouma would have been competitive with marvin hagler? Of course you don't he would have been brutally stopped in 4-5 rds. That's what all time great fighters do crush and dominate c and b level fighters in dominant fashion not struggle with them. Watch the fights of past all time greats and that's what you will see dominant performances against c and b level fighters not competitive fights until the c or b level fighter tires or his corner throws in the towel. Dominant brutal stoppages or one sided beat downs is what you will see in many cases.
                  Is Hopkins an ATG? Drew Mercado, KDed 2x. Would never amount to anything, right?

                  It's pretty much been like that against higher rated comp since Ouma, brutal dominant stoppages (Ouma's was only brutal). That said, there's a huge gulf between Hagler and Miranda, you understand?

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                  • dray435
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by HeroBando
                    That's probably why G chose to go toe to toe, cause it's a losing battle for light punching Ouma. And ****, put him in the hospital and retired him. So anyway, he didn't look good that time but for an off night, he won very convincingly. Other top fighters did much worse on their off nights.

                    You're conceding him the MW division, so he's gotta be pretty damn good.
                    Im conceding him the MW division because the division is the weakest division in twenty years even weaker than hopkins era before jones and toney.

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                    • HeroBando
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by dray435
                      Im conceding him the MW division because the division is the weakest division in twenty years even weaker than hopkins era before jones and toney.
                      I dunno about that. For a good stretch you had guys like Zbik, Sylvester, Randy Griffin, Asikainen rated top 5-10. Then Sergio got to be p4p and fought (and sometimes struggled with) the same type of guy that is now ducking GGG, or getting overrun by him

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