Comments Thread For: Sulaiman: Too Many Organizations, Too Many Titles

[Dr Rumack]

Sulaiman Jr says all the right things. He's like the new pope.

[cabalas]

David Greisman just wrote this today in "Fighting Words":
...There are 17 weight classes in boxing. The WBA has 12 “super,” “unified” or “undisputed” champions. It has another 15 “regular” titleholders. And it has 11 boxers carrying “interim” belts. That’s 38 titles for 17 weight classes. By tomorrow (Aug. 26), after the bout between 108-pounders Randy Petalcorin and Walter Tello is over, there will be 39. By this Saturday, after the bout between bantamweights Yonfrez Parejo and Luis Hinojosa, there will be 40. By next month, when Luis Ortiz and Lateef Kayode fight, there will be 41. And that’s not even including its intercontinental, international, interpretive dance, Intergalactic Planetary and Inter-Gender Wrestling belts...
And many don't see any problem on this.

[wladavit]

Boxingscene should start their own organization!!

BPP,

Since it was my idea, may I be on the committee?

[ShoulderRoll]

Read the article I linked to.

I am not convinced by it in the slightest. If there was only one world champion then being a ranked contender would also be more respected and those fighters could command more money.

[Lou Cipher]

In other breaking news, Mexican drug cartels have decided to work together and make 1/3 the amount of money because they care abut their addicted customers.

[TLC8]

I LOVE reading posts like this one. You sir know what you are talking about. Refreshing to read sensible posts like this rather than the usual trolling and hot air blown by know it nots. Green k'd you for outlining the possibilities of what boxing could be like with 1 main champion for those numbskulls who will only troll the idea or talk bad about Sulaiman. For once he is saying some real **** that we can and should appreciate.

Kudo's bruv!

Bro, I never liked Sulamain's dad. He was too tight with Don King. A lot of shady decisions happened for that relationship in place. But I think the kid gets it. Enough is enough. Think about why the greatest heavyweight division/era commanded a global presence. Ali, Frazier, Forman fought all over the world. They didn't stay at home fighting in Vegas every fight. Think about the great Top Ten they had.

Champion: Muhammad Ali
Contenders:
Joe Frazier
George Forman
Ken Norton
Ernie Shavers
Ron Lyle
Jimmy Young
Jimmy Ellis

... And the list went on an on. When any of them fought, you had an event. They all fought one another, in their prime, multiple times, because you had ONE world Champion.

As I said earlier, imagine if you had Ray Leonard, Tommy Hearns, Roberto Duran all with welterweight titles from three different organizations, and they never fought one another; protecting their belt defending against less threatening opponents. Think of the legendary, epic super fights we would have missed out on. Today's fighters are driven by money period. They could care less who the best is.

[TLC8]

David Greisman just wrote this today in "Fighting Words":
...There are 17 weight classes in boxing. The WBA has 12 “super,” “unified” or “undisputed” champions. It has another 15 “regular” titleholders. And it has 11 boxers carrying “interim” belts. That’s 38 titles for 17 weight classes. By tomorrow (Aug. 26), after the bout between 108-pounders Randy Petalcorin and Walter Tello is over, there will be 39. By this Saturday, after the bout between bantamweights Yonfrez Parejo and Luis Hinojosa, there will be 40. By next month, when Luis Ortiz and Lateef Kayode fight, there will be 41. And that’s not even including its intercontinental, international, interpretive dance, Intergalactic Planetary and Inter-Gender Wrestling belts...
And many don't see any problem on this.

Because they aren't smart enough to understand why it's a problem, not old enough to remember how Boxing used to be from the 70's-90's. Today it's all about money, acting gangster, ****** mouth trash talking, and frequenting strip clubs on a high profile basis, along side their gun-toting rap artist, gangster wannabes. That's today's Boxing for the most part and they will sell you on the entertainment value. I'd rather see the best fight the best in their prime, with none of the bling, and entourages that include Justin Beiber and the likes. Pathetic.

[TLC8]

Admitting it and doing something to change it are two different things.

Now there's wisdom. Glad you took time to post the obvious.

[TLC8]

The other bodies will not give up their champs & $$ from sanctioning fees. Silaiman has saod WBC doesn't allow unification bouts, he seems 2 b caught in the middle...But wouldn' 1 champ per division b great w/ many valid contenders, like my old days? But it won' t happen...

Nobody needs unification fights if all 6 organizations come together to create One for One Belt. Take each organization President to form a board who ranks each division every month. There'd be more title defenses, bigger more frequent top Ten fights amongst each other. Everybody wins. More viewers, because the fights are more competitive. You'd get fights like Guerrero-Thurman, or Porter-Bradley, or Brook-Maidana, and on and on..., like back in the day. You knew every fight was going to be a war. Think about how big Ali-Frazier fights were, Foreman-Frazier, Leonard-Hearns, Hagler-Hearns, Pryor-Arguello, Holyfield-Bowe, Dela Hoya-Mosley were, and they were often. We rarely see stuff like that anymore. Because all these organizations and the plethora of belts dilute the quality of fights. Danny Garcia-Rod Salka??? Lamont Peterson- Santana??? And they still can't get those two to fight one another. Just disgusting. Andre Ward fighting with his promoter losing three times in court, wasting his years away. 5 years and clicking Floyd won't fight Manny. Cotto won't fight Gennady. Amir Khan fights nobody and thinks for what he did in 2010, he should go to the front of the line to fight Floyd or Manny???? And Juan Marquez lays in the weeds trying to find the least amount of risk to grab a belt at 147, do he can boast he's the all time greatest Mexican for having won 5 Belts in 5 different divisions. It's a farce.

[dinero fan]

Get rid of the damn silver belts.