Shawn Porter has almost no ring IQ.

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  • gmc_rfc_06
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    #31
    Originally posted by mrpain81
    He did go from run of the mill to a monster in 2 fights.

    Honestly he didn't look very strong tonight, he's supposed to be a guy that used to fight at middleweight and tonight he was getting overpowered on the inside by Brook.

    I'm not saying what Paulie said was true but he looked a bit deflated tonight.
    Kell comes down to 147 from around 175, he is a bigger WW than Porter.

    Some guy claimed on here the other week that Brook was small at the weight....

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    • chav
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      #32
      Originally posted by mrpain81
      He did go from run of the mill to a monster in 2 fights.

      Honestly he didn't look very strong tonight, he's supposed to be a guy that used to fight at middleweight and tonight he was getting overpowered on the inside by Brook.

      I'm not saying what Paulie said was true but he looked a bit deflated tonight.
      I think Brook stops Paulie too, similar to what Khan did. Paulie is brave, but he can be stopped as he doesn't have enough to keep good fighters off him. The Devon win is a bit meh….both wins aren't that impressive, just like Kell being Porter isn't that impressive as I never rated Porter that highly to begin with.

      Originally posted by gmc_rfc_06
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      I wonder is Porter is still this 'beast' that will take over at WW.....

      People were seriously giving Brook no chance, it was hilarious.
      Ignorance. Naivety…im not sure which. Im going to pick ignorance as they hadn't seen him because he hadn't fought on their TV against the usual US bums that get lined up for a beating on route to the title and Youtube was too much hard work

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        #33
        Originally posted by Mike Haynes
        Brook should have gotten a point taken away for excessive holding.......he showed very little ring IQ himself.
        Porter gameplan is to force you off balance, then land wild hooks on you like he did to Paule (had him sitting on the ropes). Instead of punching his way in with combos, he Leaps with one attack then try to muscle you out of position to land wild hooks. -- This is not boxing.

        When he came up against sum1 who he couldn't push back as much, he resorted to rabbit punching.

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          #34
          Originally posted by radioraheem
          Therein lies the problem. Porter didn't have a gameplan. That's just the way he fights. He has one real gear, that's it. Mentioning counter punching and Porter in the same breath during this fight is laughable. Maybe you can call it retaliation after getting hit, but not counter punching.

          If Berto were in there, the fight would've been much more entertaining, even if he got KO'd. And Berto wouldn't continually rush-in with his head, smother his punches, etc. For all his faults, I would've rather saw Berto in there tonight.
          Rushing in is usually the gameplan for a shorter fighter fighting a taller one. Guys like Mike Tyson knew how to do this effectively. Obviously Porter does not have Tyson's sharpness or power. And yes Porter did try countering which is why Brook didn't throw his jab as much as he could have. Brook only landed FOUR more punches. Berto has been beat by guys worse than Brook. So lets not act like Shawn Porter has less ring iq than him.

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          • mrpain81
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            #35
            The Devon win was impressive considering he was about a 8-1 favorite if I remember correctly.

            Brooks strength really impressed me tonight, he used that Lennox/Klitschko push down on the inside and it worked very well.

            The holding was a bit excessive early but later it was actually Porter holding after he got tagged.

            Khan vs. Brook next please.

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            • radioraheem
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              #36
              Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
              Rushing in is usually the gameplan for a shorter fighter fighting a taller one. Guys like Mike Tyson knew how to do this effectively. Obviously Porter does not have Tyson's sharpness or power. And yes Porter did try countering which is why Brook didn't throw his jab as much as he could have. Brook only landed FOUR more punches. Berto has been beat by guys worse than Brook. So lets not act like Shawn Porter has less ring iq than him.
              You're not getting it. That style is typical for Porter. Not just for this fight. Brook didn't abandon his jab because of Porter's countering. Porter had insane trouble landing effective shots. Brook just had some trouble dealing with Porter's constant wild rushing.

              Porter may or may not have less ring IQ than Berto. But he certainly doesn't have more.

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                #37
                Originally posted by [T][B][E]
                Porter gameplan is to force you off balance, then land wild hooks on you like he did to Paule (had him sitting on the ropes). Instead of punching his way in with combos, he Leaps with one attack then try to muscle you out of position to land wild hooks. -- This is not boxing.

                When he came up against sum1 who he couldn't push back as much, he resorted to rabbit punching.
                Exactly. He fights wildly. And the other funny thing is that he doesn't seem to understand that such a style will tire you out midway. So midway during the fight, you can see Porter's aggression start to significantly drop.

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                • hectari
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                  #38
                  Brook strength was amazing, he was like an immovable object, Porter kept trying to hip toss him but spent to much energy and couldn't even budge him lol, it was like Brook was made of concrete.

                  Porter thought he was a beast and would throw Kell around it backfired on him he felt weak and was like wtf im trying to throw him and bum rush him but he isn't moving like Devon and Paulie

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by hectari
                    Brook strength was amazing, he was like an immovable object, Porter kept trying to hip toss him but spent to much energy and couldn't even budge him lol, it was like Brook was made of concrete.

                    Porter thought he was a beast and would throw Kell around it backfired on him he felt weak and was like wtf im trying to throw him and bum rush him but he isn't moving like Devon and Paulie
                    Why would Porter even try and think he could toss Brooke around when Brooke is the bigger man? Porter is an idiot.

                    My thing is, Porter and his team know they have the speed advantage so why not use that and box Brooke? Going in like a wild man and fighting aggressive is the wrong way to use that speed, IMO.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by hectari
                      Porter should just go to MMA, he can't box a lick. This dude just rushing you with all his might and hoping to land with all his weight behind it. it was cringeworthy.
                      that's exactly what i was thinking.

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