The Love/Hate for Haymon

[M.I Truth ?]

It seems like too many people have agendas on both sides. If you look at things a bit more rationally and take things on case by case basis then I feel the jury is still out.

This weekends card was trash. Waste of time. I regret not being able to attend only because I missed hanging out with my boxing buddies afterwards. People who complain that Haymon gets fighters high pay for crap fights that eat network budgets have a point. It is his job however to get his clients the best possible deals though. We hate the aggressive lawyers that find a way to get the perp off but if we were the accused perp I bet we would hire the most aggressive shark of a lawyer our money could buy. Perspective.

If you hate on Haymon for putting trash cards together (like this past weekend) then you also have to tip your hat to the quality ones. We saw Danny in a mismatch this weekend. We also got to see Danny vs. Lucas on a huge PPV event. A great fight that makes an even bigger event more special. Seeing Khan vs Collazo and Broner in a feature fight as PPV support was also nice. You could say that those fights would have been better for free on World championship Boxing. Its a fair point but with the high visibility of the PPV cards they were actually on I don't think anyone missed out. Plus with the names involved it would have definitely ate up some of that network budget people seem to be so concerned about. I guess it comes down to if you prefer good/decent fights to stand on their own or to make a big event feel even bigger. Perspective

[Inkanyamba]

It seems like too many people have agendas on both sides. If you look at things a bit more rationally and take things on case by case basis then I feel the jury is still out.

This weekends card was trash. Waste of time. I regret not being able to attend only because I missed hanging out with my boxing buddies afterwards. People who complain that Haymon gets fighters high pay for crap fights that eat network budgets have a point. It is his job however to get his clients the best possible deals though. We hate the aggressive lawyers that find a way to get the perp off but if we were the accused perp I bet we would hire the most aggressive shark of a lawyer our money could buy. Perspective.

If you hate on Haymon for putting trash cards together (like this past weekend) then you also have to tip your hat to the quality ones. We saw Danny in a mismatch this weekend. We also got to see Danny vs. Lucas on a huge PPV event. A great fight that makes an even bigger event more special. Seeing Khan vs Collazo and Broner in a feature fight as PPV support was also nice. You could say that those fights would have been better for free on World championship Boxing. Its a fair point but with the high visibility of the PPV cards they were actually on I don't think anyone missed out. Plus with the names involved it would have definitely ate up some of that network budget people seem to be so concerned about. I guess it comes down to if you prefer good/decent fights to stand on their own or to make a big event feel even bigger. Perspective

It's simple really.

Haymon is the equivalent to an undefeated, flashy, ****y, and ****** rich boxer, the ones that you guys love to hate. He's simply just not a fighter. But that's the vibe he gives off because of how successful he is. The fact that he's tied to Floyd and all the others that people love to hate doesn't help.

[Outwest Exp 355]

He's not a fighter, he's a manager. I can careless about the guy personally and he should be critizised for that card last weekend. But that was then this is now. It's really time to move on.

[Big_L]

haymon is not a promoter (yet). he's not a tv executive. his job is to get his fighters paid and he does a great job. his guys make money with low risk fights. blame the promoters and the stephen espinoza's of the world that allow him to do this. ken hershman put an end to it at hbo.

[Porter's Dad]

The idea behind this thread is sound. Like most things on this site, most people approach things with their minds made up already. It almost feels like the site is split in two.

However, I would say you've gone a little easy on Haymon. That card was disastrous, one of the worst I can ever remember. Further, I think there was something quite repulsive and sickening in nearly getting Salka seriously, seriously injured just to ensure Danny got some easy money. It really left a bad taste in my mouth.

[Uklad]

Hayman is a disgrace to boxing.

[Ray*]

He is a manager, why would I blame him for a fight card? I wouldn't why? Because there was a promoter involve. The promoter carries the blame for me, anyone blaming a manager is plain ****** IMO.

[Big_L]

He is a manager, why would I blame him for a fight card? I wouldn't why? Because there was a promoter involve. The promoter carries the blame for me, anyone blaming a manager is plain ****** IMO.

exactly. it's like blaming cameron dunkin for a card promoted by top rank and shown on hbo. they have to agree to it.

[maguirre]

Like most things on this site, most people approach things with their minds made up already. It almost feels like the site is split in two.

Floyd fans defend him no matter what. Everyone else sees things as they are.

[Fetta]

Floyd fans defend him no matter what. Everyone else sees things as they are.

You realize you just made his point true right.