I don't know how it is in some parts of the globe but from where I live it's been at an all time low. I started watching with a large circle of relatives and friends. Now I'm all alone. I canceled my subscriptions and discovered the world of streaming, out of necessity. I'll watch if they're available. Otherwise, I'm content reading who won/lost after the fight is over.
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In your opinion what is the state of Boxing?
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As long as we get the 1's vs. the 2's fighting each other when they should I'm OK. I'm only concerned with the best fighting the best. Over the past year or so we got these that have already happened or are scheduled.
Garcia/Matthysse
Floyd/Canelo
Canelo/Lara
Rigondeaux/Donaire
Chocolito/Yaegashi
Wlad/Pulev
A lot of champions in these other divisions need to get their **** together. When boxing stops becoming about the best vs. the best, then its on its last leg.
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Once Pacquiao, Mayweather, Cotto, JMM all step away...boxing will go through a struggle period for awhile unfortunately.
Reason why because the Sport Of Boxing don't have Loyal Fans, BOXERS DO! Look at this forum for example, 98% of the Threads are just full of negativity, it is absolutely no other sport in which their forums just talk bad about their sport and the athletes who participate in it.
Also think Networks, Boxing Media and Promotions all do just a **** job at promotion the sport they cover, their way of promotion is all out of date, they still using Commercials and Radio Ads which is just a waste of Money because people are watching everything online now, everybody is on Twitter and Instagram most of the day. I see fighters now interviewing with a lot of the youtube Boxing Channels which is smart but still I think GBP and Top Rank need YOUNGER GUYS which fresh and up to date ideas. UFC knows how to appeal to the younger crowd, they have Apps, have a App for your video game system, also have a popular video game, all these things taps into that younger demographic who will grow up UFC FANS so when they get older and start to work and make their money, guess what they will buy? UFC EVENTS! Boxing don't have any of this stuff. So because the SPORT itself really doesn't have a Loyal Fanbase, in the US at least, boxing will fall on tough times once their current top draws are done.
But outside of the US especially UK I think Boxing will be just fine and will continue to grow and flourish their, Americans might have to run and sign with Eddie Hearns in the future because the state of boxing in the US could be in serious trouble if Networks and Promotions don't start to work together.
Pacquiao vs Mayweather is something the sports NEEDS before they step away, put aside the silly crap and who fault is what, wash all of that past BS away and come together and give the fans at least that 1 Mega Event in which it is Pacquiao vs Mayweather as the Mainevent and on the undercard nothing but young talented guy who could possibly carry the torch once those two are done. Boxing owes that to its fans at least.Last edited by sicko; 08-11-2014, 12:17 PM.
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Funny thing is, don't know if it's coincidence or not, Haymon fighters started saying, "boxing is business." Even Broner, for the first time, echoed in his interview with Kenny what Peterson and Garcia have been mentioning, "boxing is business." They're happy getting hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions, for fighting less risky fights. Who can blame them if you have Haymon aided by Espinosa acting like Santa Claus? The downside is meaningful fights are getting more and more expensive to make.
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it's decreasing and falling rapidly.
i predict boxing will enter complete joke status/the realm of WWE in 2-3 years.
i'm almost done with boxing at this point and will probably start watching tennis. too many cowards in boxing.
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My problem with this era is that its the reality tv boxing era. Too much hype not enough pay off. Fighters act like they are doing fans a favor when they fight someone they're supposed to be fighting. 147 is stacked right now but you wouldnt know it because most of these guys are looking for soft touches and claim greatness when they beat one person worth a damn. The big 2 need to go as well. Their presence just helps facilitate the problem. They are not going to fight eachother and are just wasting everyones time. Also how about the networks wait and see how a fighter does before they start telling us their the greatest thing since sliced bread.
The fans are another issue. Too many nuthuggers for one fighter or another. Fans should be able to call bull**** when they see it. The "well he does it" should never be an excuse for any of them.Last edited by Shogunofharlem1; 08-11-2014, 12:36 PM.
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Originally posted by KRAFTSMAN View PostFunny thing is, don't know if it's coincidence or not, Haymon fighters started saying, "boxing is business." Even Broner, for the first time, echoed in his interview with Kenny what Peterson and Garcia have been mentioning, "boxing is business." They're happy getting hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions, for fighting less risky fights. Who can blame them if you have Haymon aided by Espinosa acting like Santa Claus? The downside is meaningful fights are getting more and more expensive to make.
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Originally posted by Shogunofharlem1 View PostMy problem with this era is that its the reality tv boxing era. Too much hype not enough pay off. Fighters act like they are doing fans a favor when they fight someone they're supposed to be fighting. 147 is stacked right now but you wouldnt know it because most of these guys are looking for soft touches and claim greatness when they beat one person worth a damn. The big 2 need to go as well. Their presence just helps facilitate the problem. They are not going to fight eachother and are just wasting everyones time. Also how about the networks wait and see how a fighter does before they start telling us their the greatest thing since sliced bread.
The fans are another issue. Too many nuthuggers for one fighter or another. Fans should be able to call bull**** when they see it. The "well he does it" should never be an excuse for any of them.
As of the OP, there's been good and bad like every year. My memory sucks, so I can't tell you which outweighs the other. I just try to look for the good. This week's FNF has a decent main event, and the Porter-Brook card is pretty good. Matts/Ortiz could be a barn-burner, N'Dam/Stevens will be interesting, Estrada-Segura will definitely be good and we got B-Hop/Kovalev.Last edited by kiaba360; 08-11-2014, 01:21 PM.
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Originally posted by KRAFTSMAN View PostFunny thing is, don't know if it's coincidence or not, Haymon fighters started saying, "boxing is business." Even Broner, for the first time, echoed in his interview with Kenny what Peterson and Garcia have been mentioning, "boxing is business." They're happy getting hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions, for fighting less risky fights. Who can blame them if you have Haymon aided by Espinosa acting like Santa Claus? The downside is meaningful fights are getting more and more expensive to make.
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Originally posted by The Big Dunn View Postthat sounds exactly like a fighter we all know that turned down the biggest fight ever over drug testing and then turned down $40 mil (no ppv) so he could continue to make millions fighting lesser opponents.
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