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  • al-Xander
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    #21
    I can't even believe these clowns (Haymon/Espinoza) can do this in this day and age of social media where every bad move people make in any business is scrutinized and have instant repercussions. Back in the day they can do whatever they want and get away with it. HBO was Haymon's previous puppet and there was no such instant backlash. These clowns keep doing it and don't learn anything.

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #22
      Originally posted by JoeMan
      I can't even believe these clowns (Haymon/Espinoza) can do this in this day and age of social media where every bad move people make in any business is scrutinized and have instant repercussions. Back in the day they can do whatever they want and get away with it. HBO was Haymon's previous puppet and there was no such instant backlash. These clowns keep doing it and don't learn anything.
      were you this upset last week when Kovalev fought Caparello? No, so pipe down. Both networks are ****ting on you. To complain about the smell of only one is ridiculous.

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      • Fetta
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        #23
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        were you this upset last week when Kovalev fought Caparello? No, so pipe down. Both networks are ****ting on you. To complain about the smell of only one is ridiculous.
        Its Joeman! His whole existence on NSB is to ***** about Haymon and Showtime.

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          #24
          Originally posted by JoeMan
          I can't even believe these clowns (Haymon/Espinoza) can do this in this day and age of social media where every bad move people make in any business is scrutinized and have instant repercussions. Back in the day they can do whatever they want and get away with it. HBO was Haymon's previous puppet and there was no such instant backlash. These clowns keep doing it and don't learn anything.


          Great post. Haymon and Espinoza are driving this great sport into the grave.

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          • Tyler_Durden
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            #25
            Espinoza said "It doesn't matter what people say or what people write", so lets show him, his network, the promoters, the managers, and everyone else involved that the only thing that matters is what people say and write because without us fans watching there is no show.

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            • Tyler_Durden
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              #26
              Katsunari Takayama vs Francisco Rodriguez Jr will be this Saturday, it's #1 on the television picks of the week and it's going to be a great action packed fight. I recomend watching it even if you have to stream it instead of wasting your time watching the other joke of a card that will be going on.

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                #27
                Terrible card. De La Hoya made all these promises to the fans after Schaefer left. I'm still waiting to see some action!

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                  were you this upset last week when Kovalev fought Caparello? No, so pipe down. Both networks are ****ting on you. To complain about the smell of only one is ridiculous.
                  What did you think about Showtime in 2013? I thought it was awesome! I think you hit it on the head with the whole Schaeffer/GBP legal issues. Showtime is dead without Haymon fighters, but I don't think they're dead yet. Next week's card is very nice.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Bronx2245
                    What did you think about Showtime in 2013? I thought it was awesome! I think you hit it on the head with the whole Schaeffer/GBP legal issues. Showtime is dead without Haymon fighters, but I don't think they're dead yet. Next week's card is very nice.
                    2013 was the best year for boxing in 25 years. This year has had some great fights but since they were viewed as mismatches on paper they didn't capture public attention.

                    As for Haymon/GBP- from my vantage point all Haymon can do is not allow fighters in big fights. GBP still has to meet their obligations to the fighters, Fox Sports, and the Spanish network for their weekly shows. They also have venues like the Barclays where they have agreed to put on fights this year to fill. ODH can't fail to meet those obligations.

                    That's the only leverage Haymon has. My guess-a 3rd party(Espinoza, Barclays guy, FS1 execs) tells ODH that they can't allow him to put on **** cards and **** up the ratings, which ****s up the advertising dollars. Haymon agrees to let better fights if ODH agrees to let Schaeffer (and all other ex GBP employees) out of the non compete clause.

                    Then hopefully all parties start putting on the fights we want and slowly bring an end to the cold war.

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                    • titan m
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Fetta
                      Its boxing so im watching.
                      I was like that until recently but im not watching these terrible matchups over and over anymore. As long as they get people to watch they will never stop, I know im only one person and wont affect the ratings but **** it im doing my part and with this fight I think a lot of other people are feeling the same way.

                      Boxing is the only sport where the best don't have to fight/play against the best and its just keeps getting worse. If the networks and promoters aren't going to do anything about it the fans should take it upon themselves to do it.

                      What pisses me off the most is they put together garbage fights and then try to convince people its a competitive fight and actually worth watching, who the hell do they think they are fooling?

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