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Originally posted by Divine Hammer View Postso canelo going to fight at 155lbs forever?? c'mon canelo is a middleweight posing as a "jr middleweight".
at some point he's going to have to move up and fight guys his own size.
GGG makes a good boy out of canelo. deal with it please.
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Originally posted by Divine Hammer View Postthis fight would have been relevant 2 years ago, but james kirkland hasn't done anything meaningful since KO'ing angulo. tapia was a young inexperienced prospect.
canelo needs to man up and move to middleweight and fight GGG. i will never give him any credit until he fights and beats GGG.
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Originally posted by jrrod02 View PostAgain this myth has been debunked. It's complete bull, and a poster like you should know better.
Kirkland had already had successful shoulder surgery in early April of 2012. He was approached in early June of 2012 for a fight with Canelo that wouldn't be until mid September of 2012. More than 5 months after his successful surgery.
Don't make it seem as if Canelo wanted Kirkland 5 days after he came out of surgery, was only going to give him 3 weeks to train, or as your comment insinuates Kirkland was still injured at the time they approached him. It wasn't the case.
In addition Kirkland was offered a career payday at the time, 1 million dollars. He wasn't offered peanuts. This is why he had agreed, his manager had agreed and everyone on GBP was on board. However days after agreeing to the fight Kirkland declined first saying his shoulder wasn't fully recovered, only later to change his story saying he wanted more money. Asking his manager and GBP for 2.5 million, something that even his own Manager Dunkin said was nuts, and not reasonable.
Plus there were so many inconsistency's with his story and rumors about a new advisor named Curtis Meeks in Kirklands ear telling him not to take the fight. It was pretty obvious Kirkland was not wanting to fight. In other words ducking.
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Originally posted by Mzembe View Post------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Why do you have to put "IF" in your bets? IF Kirkland shows up with Ann Wolf or IF Canelod does not finish him early?
What IF Canelo starts singing in the shower?
What IF Anne Wolfe starts barking?
What IF Kirkland is over weight?
What IF De La Hoya goes back to rehab?
What IF Floyd fights Wladimir?
What IF the sky turns red?
What IF HBO buys Showtime?
What IF Pacman becomes President?
What IF humans could fly?
Stop with the IF's! Jeeeez! Both fighters will prepare and the best man will win and that will be Canelo. Simple as that.
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those comparing glen tapia to canelo dont know what they are talking about. you thing for one canelo is gonna be caught up on the ropes the whole time. canelo has 40 + fights and we all seen how good canelo looks against boxers who come to fight him. he usually has the upper edge in hand speed and smarts. he will not have to cut off the ring in this fight. He will looks just as impressive as the angulo fight
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Originally posted by _original_ View PostHe's only been stopped once in what was a freak occurrence that didn't make any sense, so it's a bit unfair to say he doesn't take a shot very well. If anything, excluding the Ishidia fight, I'd say the guy can take a hell of a shot given he has poor defense and always comes forward. Canelo's power is a bit exaggerated as well, not saying he can't stop Kirkland but it's not an absolute given. Also, Kirkland is bringing an 85% KO ratio and the guy's conditioning and frantic pace could be a nightmare scenario for Alvarez in the later rounds when he typically gasses. So all these ingredients make for a very exciting and intriguing fight IMO.
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Originally posted by GhostBlade View PostLara is a bigger name than Andrade or at least more of an exciting matchup. The fight with Lara at least seemed exciting on paper but Andrade is going to get hurt against Canelo and no one knows who Andrade really is so the fight is as meaningless as Froch vs DeGale.
Andrade is more of an athlete than Lara and he is way more capable & dangerous offensively speaking than Lara is or could ever hope to be. I really think if Andrade moved up to 160 and notched a good win & then called out Golovkin, he'd make his case for Canelo convincingly (either by possibly beating Golovkin or taking over 160 if Golovkin moves up).
Canelo-Andrade is a great fight, Andrade just needs to find a way to put himself on the map so that fans will demand it. The talent is obvious.
Also incidentally Andrade brings a decent but loyal little fanbase with him in New England. There's a ton of Cape Verdeans & Portuguese in Greater Providence and they follow Andrade to the huge Connecticut casinos (Mohegan, Foxwoods) loyally when he fights. I can attest to this having personally attended one of his fights there.
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