Ali fought the best?

[leathernvouges]

U don't think Ali was all about the money? If it wasn't why do u think he disrespected Frazier like he did hyping up the fight, he's from an era where at a point n time your purse was based on live gate sales and I'm not saying Floyd is TBE I don't really like him that much but I wouldn't rule out the fact that Ali might have wanted to fight the top guys because he was making record pay days. And you're right Floyd would've made the most ever fighting PAC man so he definitely strategizes but they all do that's why they have managers

[PR13]

There has been a lot of Floyd bashers out there that claims that Floyd isn't the best because he dodged a lot of prime fighters (I'm 1 of them) and they always say a guy like Ali fought the best but, Ali fought the best because the best brought the best money if Ali could have fought weaker opponents for 5-10 mil a fight he might not have ever fought foreman, Frazier ect. So when u see Floyd getting $30 mil+ for whoever he fights how can u blame him.

Ali fought everyone that was in his prime... He fought Ken Norton 3 times... Ken Norton had that philly shell style & was always in great shape, tough opponent to beat... not to mention George Foreman in his prime, he was the Mike Tyson of that era.

[The Big Dunn]

Mayweather has not faced the number 1 best fighter at welter or at 140

That's a fact



Do not mention ali in the same breath as fraud

Yes he did, He beat baldomir and shane, that how he attained the lineal title. Yes, ring had manny ranked #1 at the time Floyd beat shane but almost all other rankings had shane #1.

[Jsmooth9876]

He fought Baldomir - #1 Ranked Welter and lineal champion
He Fought Mosely - #1 Ranked Welter and lineal champion

Here's the 2007 ring magazine welterweight rankings.. Conveniently Floyd took a vacation during this time lol. Baldomir....hahahahaha..... And Manny was #2 P4P...that's all you need to know about the ducker....

Welterweights
Floyd Mayweather Jr., Champion
Miguel Cotto
Paul Williams
Shane Mosley
Antonio Margarito
Zab Judah
Kermit Cintron
Luis Collazo
Joshua Clottey
Jackson Osei Bonsu
Oktay Urkal

[LoadedWraps]

There has been a lot of Floyd bashers out there that claims that Floyd isn't the best because he dodged a lot of prime fighters (I'm 1 of them) and they always say a guy like Ali fought the best but, Ali fought the best because the best brought the best money if Ali could have fought weaker opponents for 5-10 mil a fight he might not have ever fought foreman, Frazier ect. So when u see Floyd getting $30 mil+ for whoever he fights how can u blame him.

Marciano fought the best. /thread

[LacedUp]

Mayweather has not faced the number 1 best fighter at welter or at 140

That's a fact



Do not mention ali in the same breath as fraud

Only a fact in your head mate.

[DanboSmitty]

Here's the 2007 ring magazine welterweight rankings.. Conveniently Floyd took a vacation during this time lol. Baldomir....hahahahaha..... And Manny was #2 P4P...that's all you need to know about the ducker....

Welterweights
Floyd Mayweather Jr., Champion
Miguel Cotto
Paul Williams
Shane Mosley
Antonio Margarito
Zab Judah
Kermit Cintron
Luis Collazo
Joshua Clottey
Jackson Osei Bonsu
Oktay Urkal

He said Floyd never fought a #1 welterweight...and clearly he did..twice! He beat Judah, the previous #1 and everyone claimed he was ducking Baldomir. He then fight Baldomir and then of course he now claimed to to be a tin can. When he came back he fought the consensus #1 ranked welterweight in Mosley. Hate Floyd as much as you want, but the guy fights the top guy in the division the majority of the time.

Pac was #2 at the time, but he was what.. 3 divisions below what Floyd was when he retired? Your point makes no sense. You can't put all the blame on Floyd for the fight not happening, there is blame on both sides.

[The Big Dunn]

Here's the 2007 ring magazine welterweight rankings.. Conveniently Floyd took a vacation during this time lol. Baldomir....hahahahaha..... And Manny was #2 P4P...that's all you need to know about the ducker....

Welterweights
Floyd Mayweather Jr., Champion
Miguel Cotto
Paul Williams
Shane Mosley
Antonio Margarito
Zab Judah
Kermit Cintron
Luis Collazo
Joshua Clottey
Jackson Osei Bonsu
Oktay Urkal

In 2007 Floyd went up and fought ODH at 154 then fought Hatton, the #1 JWW moving up at ww.

In 2007:

Cotto fought urkal, shane and Zab
shane fought collazo and cotto
margs fought pwill and golden Johnson
pwill fought margs

[-MAKAVELLI-]

There has been a lot of Floyd bashers out there that claims that Floyd isn't the best because he dodged a lot of prime fighters (I'm 1 of them) and they always say a guy like Ali fought the best but, Ali fought the best because the best brought the best money if Ali could have fought weaker opponents for 5-10 mil a fight he might not have ever fought foreman, Frazier ect. So when u see Floyd getting $30 mil+ for whoever he fights how can u blame him.

and you know this how?


not everyone in Floyd's situation becomes an instant vagina...hard to believe, some people DO want to chase greatness

[The Big Dunn]

and you know this how?


not everyone in Floyd's situation becomes an instant vagina...hard to believe, some people DO want to chase greatness

while others want to run away from drug tests!