who is the number 1 super middleweight in the word-FROCH OR WARD

[KevinHenry007]

Except that he struggled with Bika.

Not trying to bud in or anything, but even if he did "struggle", it's a fight; do you hold Ward to that high of a standard that he's not allowed to "struggle" with anyone?

Question..... How many guys has Froch struggled with? Kesslar, Dirrel, Groves x2, Taylor (lost all but the last 30 seconds of the fight), Pascal, etc.

Going by your "struggle" stance, wouldn't this make Ward that much better than Froch

[Dirk Diggler UK]

Carl Froch himself would be embarrassed to call himself the Number 1 Super Middleweight without avenging his loss to Ward. That's all that really needs to be said.

[LacedUp]

Not trying to bud in or anything, but even if he did "struggle", it's a fight; do you hold Ward to that high of a standard that he's not allowed to "struggle" with anyone?

Question..... How many guys has Froch struggled with? Kesslar, Dirrel, Groves x2, Taylor (lost all but the last 30 seconds of the fight), Pascal, etc.

Going by your "struggle" stance, wouldn't this make Ward that much better than Froch

Just corrected him.

[LacedUp]

struggled?

it was an ugly fight, but bika landed very few clean punches. ward landed a ton of clean punches. he had very few answers for ward on the outside. most of his work was done inside, and with a free hand. bika is a strong guy, and those punches do score and have an effect, but that doesn't mean he was making ward "struggle."


it's only a brit who says that ward struggled with bika. maybe you'll find an american citizen who is simply a ward hater, but i've got no love for treasonous loyalists.

No but he did struggle. Just Rewatched the fight today, and Ward didn't look good. It was a close fight.

[Szef]

What are you a ***ing detective? Evidence? If i wanted to be further educated i wouldn't come to you 'bro' i'd do what i'm doing now and starting to compete in bouts, i'll learn more doing that than reading your one sided opinions .

You're blinded by ignorance/don't like hearing the other side of the coin so's to speak, "if it's not NE's idea/suits his ideologies it's a bad/incorrect statement". Proof? Well re-read our exchange, thats proof for everyone to see.

So there's really no point in pursuing the matter really is there, i'm happy to agree to disagree on this one. I don't care for the pettiness NSB provides (i never took notice in the few years i've been here but today has taught me you're cut from that cloth too). Which i didn't think you where, i was under the impression you where one of 'the normal one's'.

Someone disputes/replies/expresses their opinion on a matter you're discussing and you don't like it you're shook, and BOOM you're allover the keyboard like a coked up energizer bunny. Do you want a cape to go with your superiority complex?

Serious stumpy, i don't care anymore, you stay in Ward Land and i'll remain open to both sides of an argument. I've already said Ward is more skilled and does amazing things, just not enough, as a fan i want to see more of him if anything. I don't know what you're malfunction is unless you are indeed a fruitcake.

Years here/post count does not buy you 'my view is more valid than yours' points you know.... Funny i got 4 greens for my last reply to you, i must be getting something right.... Again, g'day OldAmerica. X

Edit: oooh 5th green for that post, only two limeys, seems a fair few don't like your attitude. Use some of that money you have, and enroll yourself in charm school or whatever....

Anyway, buried 6 foot under, done, this bores me.

NE on the canvas, will he get up, will he get up?

"He's not getting up, Jim"

[BodiesInFlight]

NE on the canvas, will he get up, will he get up?

"He's not getting up, Jim"

[slimshandy69]

Not trying to bud in or anything, but even if he did "struggle", it's a fight; do you hold Ward to that high of a standard that he's not allowed to "struggle" with anyone?

Question..... How many guys has Froch struggled with? Kesslar, Dirrel, Groves x2, Taylor (lost all but the last 30 seconds of the fight), Pascal, etc.

Going by your "struggle" stance, wouldn't this make Ward that much better than Froch

dont give me the old "he lost all but 30 seconds" baloney against taylor, it was a split dicesion going into the 12th, even the American pundits had it a draw going into the 12

BTW the 12th was a 10-7 round which means froch would have won on points.

[RightJab]

i've seen his two posts regarding me in the thread, and i see no torching. i don't see anything of substance at all, really.


i think it's refreshing to see somebody with the nuts to confront me, but i'd get more out of it if he had anything to offer.

Denial, first sign of ignorance, you prove my point. Cheers nob.


Does the concept of 'starting from the bottom' mean a jot to you? Or are you spoon fed everything, i rarely post about boxing on here because of '1 way traffic' morons like you, its pointless, you'd sit there and gladly recycle the same stuff just different words used all month, It's sad.

I don't know if you have selective reading capabilities or a dwarfs memory but for the 3rd time. DEAD AND BURIED. Do. You. Comprehend? English? Yes? No? Now *** off with your superiority complex cape. No discussion with you its all "me me me me me me me. or NE NE NE NE NE NE" bet that boost your SmallManSyndrome issues.....

You can regard that as a curb stomp after me flattering you. I've learned off this thread. You're not that smart, difference between being 'well-read' and genuinely smart....You're barely the first one.....

Now *** of delusional fan boy. Officially, on the 7th of August 2014, the word Ward-Tart is a now a tern, all because of you you you "me me me me me" congratulations. You where a spoiled little child i can tell.

I will ensure my Scene campaign makes a mockery of you now. Jab will be reading....

[slimshandy69]

So at point point of this/next year do you guys accept froch is the number 1 RANKED super middle weight...

[bojangles1987]

So at point point of this/next year do you guys accept froch is the number 1 RANKED super middle weight...

Depends on Froch's next fight and if he wins it. Potentially this year we could see serious discussion about dropping Ward. We're not there yet, but the moment is in sight.