Dam, Rios might have really been injuryed from that DDT

[JaguaresMx]

I used to like Rios. I can't say I am a fan of his now. He's done too much classless **** since he burst onto the scene. Back then I was a fan though.

I do notice that you Mexicans decide "who to like" based purely on ethnicity, so you guys are the last people who should be whining about the supposed lack of logic that NSB displays when deciding "who to like".

Again, I used to be a fan of Rios.

I wasn't talking about any nationality, race, etc. in particular. Just saying that these injuries seem to indicate that Chaves was dirty. And I am not a fan of Rios myself btw

[APryor]

Clncher lost, thats good for boxing.

Yeah, I do hate when refs ignore clinching. It's against the rules for good reason, and it's definitely a problem that the refs don't really enforce that particular rule. Still, it's obvious to any serious, unbiased (read "non-Mexican") boxing fan that Rios was going to get the benefit of the doubt from Draculich. If it had been Rios who was clinching, there's no way he would have so much as lost a point. It's already been pointed out that Draculich has studiously ignored incessant clinching when it is coming from the A-side fighter.

Anyway, I do hope Rios is injured and will miss some time. He got caught cheating when Pac beat him up, but he was only suspended 5 months, which was totally meaningless. He needed 5 months just to recover from that one sided beating. I hope he's forced to take some serious time off.

[Mike D]

Clncher lost, thats good for boxing.

Yeah this. Green k coming.

[JaguaresMx]

Yeah, I do hate when refs ignore clinching. It's against the rules for good reason, and it's definitely a problem that the refs don't really enforce that particular rule. Still, it's obvious to any serious, unbiased (read "non-Mexican") boxing fan that Rios was going to get the benefit of the doubt from Draculich. If it had been Rios who was clinching, there's no way he would have so much as lost a point. It's already been pointed out that Draculich has studiously ignored incessant clinching when it is coming from the A-side fighter.

Anyway, I do hope Rios is injured and will miss some time. He got caught cheating when Pac beat him up, but he was only suspended 5 months, which was totally meaningless. He needed 5 months just to recover from that one sided beating. I hope he's forced to take some serious time off.

dude let it go with the Mexican thing. Now only Mexicans are biased? Most boxing fans are biased when it comes such thing, to the point where since we are all biased, then who cares.

ref was terrible all around. He took points from both fighters and was a mess.

[Check_hooks]

What sucks is people are talking about the DQ and the ref more than the fight

This was a great close fight that should've ended naturally

When Mike Tyson bit Holyfields ear the first time, he didn't get DQ'd

[APryor]

I wasn't talking about any nationality, race, etc. in particular. Just saying that these injuries seem to indicate that Chaves was dirty. And I am not a fan of Rios myself btw

Well if you watched the fight, Chaves was dirty. I saw it as a response to Rios' illegal tactics. That's why I say Draculich came up short. He didn't take control of the fight. If one guy is constantly fouling, it's obviously going to get ugly and it did. Chaves clearly headlocked Rios and took him down late in the fight. If he has a broken collarbone, which is not confirmed yet as far as I know, it probably happened right there. It was intentional. I was wondering when something like that was going to happen. Draculich really ruined the fight by not cracking down on Rios, telling him to stop fouling, to shut his mouth and to fight clean or get DQed. He should have done that back in the 6th round. He blew it, but it looked more like corruption than simple incompetence.

[Mr. Punch-Out!!]

People must have forgot that Rios threw Chaves against the ringpost in the 5th round. Chaves bumped on his head on it too.

[JaguaresMx]

He blew it, but it looked more like corruption than simple incompetence.

we agree on this 100%. This was hideous but ref was at fault big time. A better ref would have controlled it and would have a good scrap.

Corruption or incompetence? Not sure. For my sanity, I want to say incompetence

[APryor]

dude let it go with the Mexican thing. Now only Mexicans are biased? Most boxing fans are biased when it comes such thing, to the point where since we are all biased, then who cares.

ref was terrible all around. He took points from both fighters and was a mess.

Well the only guys I see who are disagreeing with the ref ruining the fight are the Mexican fans who are saying ****** things like the ref's only mistakes were taking a point from Rios and not DQing Chaves earlier. It's annoying.

I had you figured as one of those guys, but I was wrong. Sorry. You are right, the ref was terrible.

[DoktorSleepless]

People must have forgot that Rios threw Chaves down against the ringpost in the 5th round.

Rios did zero pushing. Chavez fell by himself.