Golovkin vs Pacquiao @154 : Who Wins?

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  • jose.sooto
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    #51
    Originally posted by Xi_
    you forgot to break down and nit pick pac's ww resume.....here i'll do it for you:

    de la hoya: hadn't made 147 in a decade

    clottey: never beat a top 10 ww ever

    mosley: shot to oblivion, still made pac look sloppy

    jmm 3: cherrypick gone wrong.......jmm only other fight at ww was him getting shut out by a guy that was laid off for two years. jmm proceeded to thoroughly outbox the **** outta pac(pac was already acclimated to ww so don't give me that same size bs). rematch required.

    jmm 4: pac a got double dosage of nyqil from a blown up LW.....

    i've already explained the abomination fights against rios and algieri.....pac ww resume is overrated as hell.
    Woooooow once again you killed em with the facts! Pac Fan boys what is your response ?

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    • Jsmooth9876
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      #52
      Here's the bottom line on Floyd and Manny. The only 2 fights that have meant anything for either lately were Canelo and Bradley. All the other fights were either rematches or against guys who had no shot. Don't even give me Maidana either. He was a 14-1 underdog going in. Vegas doesn't give money away making odds like that, there was a reason for it. His best win was vs a 135 lb Broner who's overrated as hell or Ortiz who only had one win himself.

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      • jose.sooto
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        #53
        Originally posted by Jc8804
        No


        Shane was old and coming off a victory in style matchup that favored him vs margo.
        Cotto beat the last best of shane that was past prime already

        Plus shane had camp for berto for nothing. At his age that cant help. by the time he got in with floyd , I had been 16 months since the margo fight.dont go there or ill embarrass you
        These are all situations that where not in Floyd's hands. The fact remains there that Shane Mosley was the best WW not named Manny when Floyd fought him.

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        • Jsmooth9876
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          #54
          Originally posted by jose.sooto
          These are all situations that where not in Floyd's hands. The fact remains there that Shane Mosley was the best WW not named Manny when Floyd fought him.
          The fact remains he retired while he had Cotto,Marharito,Williams,and Manny all there for a fight. He let them all fight amongst themselves and came back and fought Marquez who had never been over 135 at that point and misses the weight on purpose. Floyd is a super talented fighter but he's a walking contradiction. Every time he opens his mouth he should just put his foot right in it. Remember he said "I still consider Cotto an undefeated fighter" " I fight guys were there comfortable". Next thing ya know...Canelo, come down to 152 for a fight at a weight I have been at twice already.

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          • I Hate Thugs!
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            #55
            Originally posted by jose.sooto
            These are all situations that where not in Floyd's hands. The fact remains there that Shane Mosley was the best WW not named Manny when Floyd fought him.
            I guess losing to Cotto, beating a mediocre Mayorga, and what you guys claim to be a "bum" Margarito "who was nothing without his plaster", made Mosley the best 147
            Last edited by I Hate Thugs!; 07-27-2014, 06:28 PM.

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            • Jsmooth9876
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              #56
              Originally posted by I Hate Thugs!
              I guess losing to Cotto, beating a mediocre Mayorga, and what you guys claim to be a "bum" Margarito "who was nothing without his plaster", made Mosley the best 147
              And then a 16 month layover lol. Then they say he's shot when Manny fights him. Like his best days weren't in 2002 all roided to the gills against Oscar.

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              • Xi_
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                #57
                Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
                Doesn't make them any better as fighters because they were a PPV attraction. Baldomir was a scrub man please. Do you really think Pacquaio would duck any of the scrubs Floyd has fought? Imagine what he would have done to Guerrero or Maidana coming forward like that lol.
                I'm a boxing fan, just happens I hate guys who proclaim themselves "TBE" but can't find a way to fight the only guy that matters for the last 5 years. He is his own boss right? So he can fight whomever he likes right? Or is he just another Al Haymon stable boy.
                floyd was trying to build his name at that point and gatti was hotter than fish grease at that time......you're boyfriend ggg was trying to do the same thing against chavez jr but your vagina didn't get sandy over that now did it? floyd fought baldomir not only because he was lineal but also because he had a fall out with arum......floyd was suing arum for the fights he wasn't paid for(gatti and judah). yea, yea, yea floyd ducked margarito and cotto....which is why the first fight cotto fought when he left arum was floyd. by the time pac fought margarito , he was shot to oblivion and coming off a year suspension, not to mention the fight was at a damn catchweight so let not act like margarito is some great win.....lmao!!!!! pac has enough clout to fight whom ever he wants.....he's just too much of a b*tch to do it and he'd rather hide behind arum's skirt(resigning to top rank).

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                • Jsmooth9876
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Xi_
                  floyd was trying to build his name at that point and gatti was hotter than fish grease at that time......you're boyfriend ggg was trying to do the same thing against chavez jr but your vagina didn't get sandy over that now did it? floyd fought baldomir not only because he was lineal but also because he had a fall out with arum......floyd was suing arum for the fights he wasn't paid for(gatti and judah). yea, yea, yea floyd ducked margarito and cotto....which is why the first fight cotto fought when he left arum was floyd. by the time pac fought margarito , he was shot to oblivion and coming off a year suspension, not to mention the fight was at a damn catchweight so let not act like margarito is some great win.....lmao!!!!! pac has enough clout to fight whom ever he wants.....he's just too much of a b*tch to do it and he'd rather hide behind arum's skirt(resigning to top rank).
                  GGG is not my boyfriend...it is what it is..Floyd retired and left behind a hot as fire WW division..came back and fought a lightweight over the limit and Never fought the only guy that would add anything to his legacy. If he's content with his legacy at retirement then who am I to argue. I just wanna see the best fight the best. Especially when one of them makes claims to be "The Best Ever"

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                  • joseph5620
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Jc8804
                    No


                    Shane was old and coming off a victory in style matchup that favored him vs margo.
                    Cotto beat the last best of shane that was past prime already

                    Plus shane had camp for berto for nothing. At his age that cant help. by the time he got in with floyd , I had been 16 months since the margo fight.dont go there or ill embarrass you
                    Mosley was the underdog against Magarito. Most picked him to lose. It's convenient to rewrite history with the "style matchup" excuse after the fact.


                    It's also convenient to downplay the Mosley fight with rewritten history.

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                    • Xi_
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Beercules
                      Xi must not be aware that Oscar dragged Manny up to WW

                      But then again why would he be? If Floyd didn't box, he wouldn't be on this forum
                      i'm aware of it.....many fighters get dragged up a division or two....oscar did the same thing to floyd but oscar at least got to fight at a comfortable weight.

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