Golovkin vs Pacquiao @154 : Who Wins?

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  • Jsmooth9876
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    #41
    Originally posted by Xi_
    gatti was a ppv attraction and baldomir was lineal.......what's pac's excuse for fighting the rios', diaz' and algieri's of the world? pac resigned with TR's weak ass roster to avoid the stacked gbp/al haymon roster. you have zero credibility because you're a ggg fan trying to discredit floyd's opposition.
    Doesn't make them any better as fighters because they were a PPV attraction. Baldomir was a scrub man please. Do you really think Pacquaio would duck any of the scrubs Floyd has fought? Imagine what he would have done to Guerrero or Maidana coming forward like that lol.
    I'm a boxing fan, just happens I hate guys who proclaim themselves "TBE" but can't find a way to fight the only guy that matters for the last 5 years. He is his own boss right? So he can fight whomever he likes right? Or is he just another Al Haymon stable boy.

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    • jose.sooto
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      #42
      Originally posted by HeroBando
      Lets see:

      JMM: never fought above 135
      Ortiz: no top 10 wins at a regulation weight, in ANY division! Only decent win ever at catchweight he imposed vs hypejob Berto. Career record vs top 15 level comp: 1-4-1
      Guerrero: last won a full belt (paper) at 130. No real top 10 wins at WW or JWW
      Maidana: Shut out by Devon Alexander, wins over fringe contenders and blown up hypejob Broner at welter. Rematch required
      Andre Berto was a legit undefeated welterweight champion when Ortiz defeated him. I like how you just act like the Mosley fight never happened. Shane was one of the best WW in the word when Floyd fought him. Floyd also fought Miguel Cotto at his comfortable weight 154. Marcos Maidana is a legit WW. Guerrero was his mandatory. Nice try.

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      • Jsmooth9876
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        #43
        Originally posted by jose.sooto
        Andre Berto was a legit undefeated welterweight champion when Ortiz defeated him. I like how you just act like the Mosley fight never happened. Shane was one of the best WW in the word when Floyd fought him. Floyd also fought Miguel Cotto at his comfortable weight 154. Marcos Maidana is a legit WW. Guerrero was his mandatory. Nice try.
        Lol..Mosely was one of the best in 2002 sure.. He also was coming off about 17 months off Way to go Floyd.
        Cotto comfortable weight ha? Yeah he beat a stud in Forman and lost badly to Trout. HE must love it at 154. Manny was made his mandatory. "He can have the belt" remember?

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          #44
          Originally posted by Xi_
          floyd will fight at 154 again when the money is there i'm sure, at least he is fighting legit jmw's and ww's......when is the last time pac fought a legit ww? i'll give him bradley(who isn't a big ww) but two of the last three fighters he's bought up from 140lbs......one of them is an espn fighter while the other one was a punching bag plus coming off an L.
          Originally posted by I Hate Thugs!
          Pac near damn cleaned out the whole ww division when it was stacked ( and your ****** hero was on vacation) all while being undersized and you're still complaining? ?

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          • jose.sooto
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            #45
            Originally posted by Jsmooth9876
            Lol..Mosely was one of the best in 2002 sure.. He also was coming off about 17 months off Way to go Floyd.
            Cotto comfortable weight ha? Yeah he beat a stud in Forman and lost badly to Trout. HE must love it at 154. Manny was made his mandatory. "He can have the belt" remember?
            Cotto had just gotten his confidence back in the Margarito rematch when he fought Floyd. Yeah Mosley had a long lay off but he still was the best WW in the world not named Manny or Floyd.

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            • Xi_
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              #46
              Originally posted by HeroBando
              Lets see:

              JMM: never fought above 135
              Ortiz: no top 10 wins at a regulation weight, in ANY division! Only decent win ever at catchweight he imposed vs hypejob Berto. Career record vs top 15 level comp: 1-4-1
              Guerrero: last won a full belt (paper) at 130. No real top 10 wins at WW or JWW
              Maidana: Shut out by Devon Alexander, wins over fringe contenders and blown up hypejob Broner at welter. Rematch required
              you forgot to break down and nit pick pac's ww resume.....here i'll do it for you:

              de la hoya: hadn't made 147 in a decade

              clottey: never beat a top 10 ww ever

              mosley: shot to oblivion, still made pac look sloppy

              jmm 3: cherrypick gone wrong.......jmm only other fight at ww was him getting shut out by a guy that was laid off for two years. jmm proceeded to thoroughly outbox the **** outta pac(pac was already acclimated to ww so don't give me that same size bs). rematch required.

              jmm 4: pac a got double dosage of nyqil from a blown up LW.....

              i've already explained the abomination fights against rios and algieri.....pac ww resume is overrated as hell.

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              • Jc8804
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                #47
                Originally posted by RetroSpeed05
                Isn't Floyd the Lineal champ at 154? If Floyd doesn't want to fight at 154 then drop the belts, same as Cotto at 160, if you hold the Lineal championship then theres no reason not to fight at that weight class.
                Co sign

                Floyd fans have an agenda.

                Find GGG an opponent at 168 asap and keep floyds name out his mouth

                They have 2 fights left , and their holding their breath

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by jose.sooto
                  Cotto had just gotten his confidence back in the Margarito rematch when he fought Floyd. Yeah Mosley had a long lay off but he still was the best WW in the world not named Manny or Floyd.
                  Based on what? Beating a "bum" Margarito whom you guys say was nothing special? If you guys say he's a nobody when talking about may ducking him, why was he such a great win when Mosley defeated him? Also, what else made Mosley the class of 147 when may fought him?

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                  • Jc8804
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by RetroSpeed05
                    Isn't Floyd the Lineal champ at 154? If Floyd doesn't want to fight at 154 then drop the belts, same as Cotto at 160, if you hold the Lineal championship then theres no reason not to fight at that weight class.
                    Originally posted by jose.sooto
                    Andre Berto was a legit undefeated welterweight champion when Ortiz defeated him. I like how you just act like the Mosley fight never happened. Shane was one of the best WW in the word when Floyd fought him. Floyd also fought Miguel Cotto at his comfortable weight 154. Marcos Maidana is a legit WW. Guerrero was his mandatory. Nice try.
                    No


                    Shane was old and coming off a victory in style matchup that favored him vs margo.
                    Cotto beat the last best of shane that was past prime already

                    Plus shane had camp for berto for nothing. At his age that cant help. by the time he got in with floyd , I had been 16 months since the margo fight.dont go there or ill embarrass you

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                    • Beercules
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                      #50
                      Xi must not be aware that Oscar dragged Manny up to WW

                      But then again why would he be? If Floyd didn't box, he wouldn't be on this forum

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