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  • bigjavi973
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    #291
    Originally posted by Eastcoast
    What did Stevens show about Golovkin other than he take a hit (Adama btw hit Golovkin with an even bigger punch that Golovkin shook off just fine).

    Is it that he backs up when guys start hitting him?
    Yeah, he does that with every fight. That's technique
    . Like when Ward clinches a guy when they start landing on him. Golovkin instead of tying guys up, controls distance and will reset action by moving out of range and reestablishing control.
    adama? He aint sh^t either. Who the hell did he beat? Technique. No, it looks more like he doesn't like getting hit in the face. Technique would be move your head, take a step back with your guard up, move your hips and feet etc etc etc... all he did was step back and make a face.

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      #292
      Originally posted by Szef
      man, ggg scares the **** out of you

      you seem to be more afraid of cotto losing to golovkin than cotto himself
      actually no Ive been calling for the cotto-ggg fight for a while now and have also stated that if he doesn't fight ggg he should vacate and go back down to 154 lbs.

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      • Szef
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        #293
        Originally posted by bigjavi973
        actually no Ive been calling for the cotto-ggg fight for a while now and have also stated that if he doesn't fight ggg he should vacate and go back down to 154 lbs.
        i didn't say you don't want this fight to happen.

        i said you're scared of what ggg will do to cotto if they ever fight.

        that's why you've been putting ggg down lately, and saying that he isn't actually that good. he is.

        to me, it look like you try to convince yourself more than other people, i've noticed that a long time ago.

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          #294
          Originally posted by joseph5620
          I don't have time to answer everything but I'll respond to your last statement. Golovkin is already 32 years old. Ward is 30. There isn't a lot of time for " upping the brand".

          These fighters are not prospects.

          In my opinion they should fight this year. Not in 2016. Ward might not even fight at 168 in 2016.


          Also, three years from the past until now is not the same as three years from this day regarding where Ward is going to be.
          Golovkin can actually up his brand quite a bit in the next couple years b/c he hasn't had as much exposure as Ward. He is getting there. And with Golovkins style any exposure he gets will increase his brand quite a bit. He's only been on the scene a couple years.

          Andre Ward has already peaked with his brand unless he fights and beats a big name. In fact Wards brand is falling with every fight he takes b/c he's a boring (to the avg viewer) boxer.

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            #295
            Originally posted by Szef
            i didn't say you don't want this fight to happen.

            i said you're scared of what ggg will do to cotto if they ever fight.

            that's why you've been putting ggg down lately, and saying that he isn't actually that good. he is.

            to me, it look like you try to convince yourself more than other people, i've noticed that a long time ago.
            actually no. I call it like I see it. Rosado was coming up from 154 lbs. Adama is a nobody. Stevens, all he has is power, thats it. See his last fight for example. Especially in a time where divisions are much closer than what they were in the golden ages, GGG not moving up in 30 something pro fights should tell people somethings.

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              #296
              Originally posted by bigjavi973
              actually no. I call it like I see it. Rosado was coming up from 154 lbs. Adama is a nobody. Stevens, all he has is power, thats it. See his last fight for example. Especially in a time where divisions are much closer than what they were in the golden ages, GGG not moving up in 30 something pro fights should tell people somethings.
              Fighters move up when they can't make the weight limit, or are looking for bigger money. He's open to bigger money fights above 160 right now, but nobody is biting. Some fighters also move up when they know they can't cut it at the weight, and find vulnerable opponents one division up (eg bad knees)

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              • Lords
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                #297
                Originally posted by Weebler I
                Golovkin says he's ready to fight Ward right now provided the deal is right.

                Skip to 1:48

                Well of course he's going to say that, he's not gonna be made to look like a scared fighter. Did you expect him to say he's scared to fight Ward? Stop calling out junior middleweights and welterweights and move up and show your worth. Cleaning out the 160 div doesn't prove a gawd damn thing, that div is trash as ***.

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                  #298
                  Originally posted by Lords
                  Well of course he's going to say that, he's not gonna be made to look like a scared fighter. Did you expect him to say he's scared to fight Ward? Stop calling out junior middleweights and welterweights and move up and show your worth. Cleaning out the 160 div doesn't prove a gawd damn thing, that div is trash as ***.
                  He should pick up the trash and get rid of the worst offender first, that imposter of a lineal champ

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                    #299
                    Originally posted by Konstantin
                    Golovkin can actually up his brand quite a bit in the next couple years b/c he hasn't had as much exposure as Ward. He is getting there. And with Golovkins style any exposure he gets will increase his brand quite a bit. He's only been on the scene a couple years.

                    Andre Ward has already peaked with his brand unless he fights and beats a big name. In fact Wards brand is falling with every fight he takes b/c he's a boring (to the avg viewer) boxer.
                    GGG is older than Ward..if anybody has peaked it's him.

                    By the time Golovkin challenges himself he'll be too old.

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                      #300
                      Originally posted by Lords
                      Well of course he's going to say that, he's not gonna be made to look like a scared fighter. Did you expect him to say he's scared to fight Ward? Stop calling out junior middleweights and welterweights and move up and show your worth. Cleaning out the 160 div doesn't prove a gawd damn thing, that div is trash as ***.
                      If poor little Cotto doesn't want to face Golovking he should relinquish that lineal strap.

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