Would Tyson been "the baddest man on the planet" if...

[brickcityboxing]

If he was born in Detroit and Emanuel Steward happened to stumble upon him instead of D'amato ? Would his raw talent have still prevailed if a different style was implanted early on ? Or did he have to come up under Cus in order for him to be who he was ...

Where would he have ended up under another trainer ? :

World champ

Journeyman

Contender

Jail ...

[Sugar Adam Ali]

No mike was fine just the way he was.. He still was the baddest man on the planet from 86-89

[brickcityboxing]

No mike was fine just the way he was.. He still was the baddest man on the planet from 86-89

I'm saying would it have been possible at all under another trainer ?

[R_Walken]

My take on it .his legacy wouldn't be the same if CUs wasn't the one who shaped and molded him in his teenage years.


the Tyson that world knows was the perfect combination of so many factors and CUs was a huge part whether it was the love that he showed Mike not just as a trainer but a de facto father his guidance and fighting philosophy. . Mikes whole in ring persona was what CUs created.

With Emanuel behind the wheel Ttson would have been a different fighter. I don't know if he would have been considered one of the greatest ever or a journeyman but he wouldn't be the same as we know him today just my take.

[Sugar Adam Ali]

Steward really never did anything major if he didn't have a long jabber like hearns, wlad, Lennox.. His work with evander, oscar, and some others was not very memorable..

To his credit he did guide McCall past Lennox in the first fight

[Larry the boss]

Stewart would not be a great fit for Tyson at all

[Larry the boss]

Cus not only trained Tyson he protected him from the outside world..things happen for a reason and the perfect collision needs all the factors..take one away and you are just another guy in this world

[brickcityboxing]

Stewart would not be a great fit for Tyson at all

I didn't mean steward in particular I meant any other big name trainer ... I should've clarified that.

[tibbar]

It was not all boxing between Mike and Cus, He was the heavyweight champion at 19 what else can you ask for? how bad can tyson be more than what he was? theres nothing wrong with mikes style, all is his attitude and thats when cus was not around anymore that his career gone spiraling down. close this thread already no other trainer can do anything with mike.

[LacedUp]

No way.

Mike's image came from Cus D'amato who hated the boxing world. He had been sticked up by the moneymen in the world of boxing, and wanted to create his boy. a boy who didn't give a shyt just like Cus didn't and they were going to cause havoc to the traditional boxing world.

No one else would have done that to mike, because they wouldn't have that same burning flame as Cus did.

Read Mike's book and you'll see what I mean.