Boxer vs MMA fighter in boxing

[U_TALKING_2_ME?]

He's actually correct in what he says. Anything you learn as a child you absorb better and for longer in life without practice, but he is absolutely correct. I have been around wrestling in high school, self defense in the military has some mma tendencies so I had 6 years experience in that, and then of my own accord, I took wing chun for about a year, and I have been boxing for over 8 years as an AM, so I would say my experience and education are enough to have a vaild opinion on the subject.

Another thing cuahtelmoc failed to mention is that mma as a sport is very new, the talent pool is just not that deep, it doesn't happen that fast. Boxing has been around for hundreds of years, we have more of a sample size and more history behind it. While mma derives from a combination of other arts, mma in iself is not the same thing, so the history of individual martial arts doesn't count as time that mma has been around as a sport. MMA is still largely being figured out, the opinion on the best arts to use or the most effective changes, I stopped watching years ago and I remember the methodologies changing every couple of years depending on who were champions and what not, boxing is much more mature in that we already have many of those answers, not to say things can't be discovered, but one has to take such things into consideration.

Finally, I would like to add that amateur (or the equivalent of) wrestling is not the same as AM boxing, maybe from the persective of an mma trainer or fan, but certainly not from my perspective and from a boxers perspective, just like a minor leaguer isn't the same as a NCAA player. All else considered equal, I would dare to say that it's both easier to learn, and easier to compete in collegiate wrestling than it is AM boxing. Many, many people I know rose to a high level before turning 20 (state or nationals) in wrestling that didn't even start until 9th or 10th grade. If you progressed that fast and won national competitions in boxing you would be considered a phenom. Talent pools matter.

Correct in what Point?

While it is obvious that if you start to learn something as a child the better you will be as an adult, that is something i am not debating.

I am debating the fact that he has stated that wrestling was easier to learn, which is absurd.

the reason I deduce that I was not an olimpic level wrestler is because i did not start early enough.

Edit: the talent pool in wrestling far outnumbers the talent pool in am boxing, so more kids wrestle than box and there is no debating that point so there are many more phenoms in wrestling then there are in boxing

[LoadedWraps]

Correct in what Point?

While it is obvious that if you start to learn something as a child the better you will be as an adult, that is something i am not debating.

I am debating the fact that he has stated that wrestling was easier to learn, which is absurd.

the reason I deduce that I was not an olimpic level wrestler is because i did not start early enough.

Edit: the talent pool in wrestling far outnumbers the talent pool in am boxing, so more kids wrestle than box and there is no debating that point so there are many more phenoms in wrestling then there are in boxing

In amateurs, I think it would be pretty close, but then even the elite wrestlers, where do they go from there? There is no lucrative pro circuit like in boxing that I know of, you may be right there may be more kids wrestling than kids boxing worldwide, but if we talk about amateur and pro of both, I think there are much more boxers, I don't think there is any money in true roman grecco wrestling, if you don't find a diff career, or go the mma or WWE route (lol) what else is there? I know karate/muay thai/judo/wrestling have professional competitions but since the 70's have any of them been relevant to the point of a viable career like boxing? If so, I didn't know about it. By viable career I mean they don't have to have a second job to meet their needs, btw.

[U_TALKING_2_ME?]

In amateurs, I think it would be pretty close, but then even the elite wrestlers, where do they go from there? There is no lucrative pro circuit like in boxing that I know of, you may be right there may be more kids wrestling than kids boxing worldwide, but if we talk about amateur and pro of both, I think there are much more boxers, I don't think there is any money in true roman grecco wrestling, if you don't find a diff career, or go the mma or WWE route (lol) what else is there? I know karate/muay thai/judo/wrestling have professional competitions but since the 70's have any of them been relevant to the point of a viable career like boxing? If so, I didn't know about it. By viable career I mean they don't have to have a second job to meet their needs, btw.

my point was amature wrestling was the equal to having an amature pedigre in boxing for MMA, which it is and to say that it is easier to compete and have success in a sport with a much larger talent pool is absurd.

And then I debated the fact that am wrestling is easier to learn than boxing which is also absurd

[E. O. Wilson]

There is no MMA fighter in boxing. Once he trains for/enters a match under boxing rules, he's being a boxer.

Sometimes people act like MMA fighter and boxer are genetic groups.

"How would a baseball player do in the Navy?", uh, the same as anyone else I guess.

[Unseen]

my point was amature wrestling was the equal to having an amature pedigre in boxing for MMA, which it is and to say that it is easier to compete and have success in a sport with a much larger talent pool is absurd.

And then I debated the fact that am wrestling is easier to learn than boxing which is also absurd

I would imagine world wide, that there are just as many amateur boxers as there are wrestlers. The US maybe different, but World wide is another thing all together.

[U_TALKING_2_ME?]

I would imagine world wide, that there are just as many amateur boxers as there are wrestlers. The US maybe different, but World wide is another thing all together.

You have a point, depending on the country for example I would wager that countrys like Cuba and maybe England have more amature boxers then wrestlers,

but in the U.S for example almost every juinor high and high school have an amature wrestling program and the last few years I was an amature boxer I was a heavyweight and there were very few heavyweights or super heavys to match against so the number has to be close to 20 to 1 more westlers if not more

that was one of the reasons I switched to wrestling when I hit high school (and I got sparked in my last boxing match is another reason, lol)

[brickcityboxing]

Props to the mma guy for stepping in the ring but with that said... Wtf was he thinking ? The shuffling/switching of his stance ... Horrible ... Idk what the thought process must've been, "no one in boxing does this, he will never see it coming" lol... No one in boxing fights like that for a reason, ITS INEFFECTIVE !!!

[LoadedWraps]

the mma fighter got bodied.

As Toney did when he got taken to the ground, out of your environment, it's much harder. lmfao. IK jsut checked his boxrec record and he didn't have another boxing match after that one. He learned he couldn't hang quick!

Where is master01 to come defend his fighter? Oh I know, probably back at sherdog where he belongs.

[Ruthless One]

There is no MMA fighter in boxing. Once he trains for/enters a match under boxing rules, he's being a boxer.

Sometimes people act like MMA fighter and boxer are genetic groups.

"How would a baseball player do in the Navy?", uh, the same as anyone else I guess.

I lol'd.