Should Wladimir Klitschko fire Emmanual Steward?

[techn9ne]

it was all in good humor

well its all water under the bridge now...

lets go bowling

[Torino]

I've already said all I needed to regarding Klitschko haters. They know who they are and they hate being exposed. Once a hater's bias has been proven unreasonable, their words have no value on this topic.

It's very simple to put Wladimir's situation into perspective.

Olympic Gold Medal, Former WBO World Champion, Several title defenses and top contender fights, ( Barrett, McCline, Byrd, Botha, to name a few) 43wins / 3 losses / 39 KO's, a 90% KO ratio, and only 28 years old.

I can't understand how anyone can say a 28 year old, accomplished fighter, should retire as long as he still has his wits about him. Anyone who does, is clearly being bias.

Now........ IMO - I don't know what to expect out of Wladimir's career, I don't know if he will ever live up to the expectations of some. I'm just saying that he EARNED the right to make his own destiny. He has done enough to EARN my respect.

Wladimir Klitschko has done VERY WELL. If he is guilty of anything, it's panicking "after" his loss to Sanders. Not to take anything away from Steward, but he shouldn't have changed trainers. Wladimir was very accomplished with his European style. If anything, he should have just gotten back up on the horse, like the KO'ed champions before him. (Lewis, Ali, Forman, and so on.)

[Nautilus]

I've already said all I needed to regarding Klitschko haters. They know who they are and they hate being exposed. Once a hater's bias has been proven unreasonable, their words have no value on this topic.

It's very simple to put Wladimir's situation into perspective.

Olympic Gold Medal, Former WBO World Champion, Several title defenses and top contender fights, ( Barrett, McCline, Byrd, Botha, to name a few) 43wins / 3 losses / 39 KO's, a 90% KO ratio, and only 28 years old.

I can't understand how anyone can say a 28 year old, accomplished fighter, should retire as long as he still has his wits about him. Anyone who does, is clearly being bias.

Now........ IMO - I don't know what to expect out of Wladimir's career, I don't know if he will ever live up to the expectations of some. I'm just saying that he EARNED the right to make his own destiny. He has done enough to EARN my respect.

Wladimir Klitschko has done VERY WELL. If he is guilty of anything, it's panicking "after" his loss to Sanders. Not to take anything away from Steward, but he shouldn't have changed trainers. Wladimir was very accomplished with his European style. If anything, he should have just gotten back up on the horse, like the KO'ed champions before him. (Lewis, Ali, Forman, and so on.)

I agree completely and I think that this is a very objective evaluation. Even if we are being unobjective and over-appreciative of our fighter, it is our right.

Fans have the right to like their fighters!

[TheFairPole]

WHo the hell are you to tell anyone to get out of the sport? Boxing need's all the fans it can get!
This is why people dont like to debate with you people. No fan is quite as rude and disrespectful (name calling for God's sake??) as the Klit. fans.
I'm sure Palma made a typo, and I dont doubt his boxing knowledge cause of it. Hitting the right keys has nothing to do with knowing the sport.

Dunce cap....get a clue...Why the hell would anyone want to debate with either of you? You two can atleast sit back and pat each other on the back now for your clever remarks
NOw I have to go read the p.m. Neuraxis sent....I just cant wait to see how insulting this is gonna be!

There you go lumping all Klitschko fans together again!!!

[tracylee]

There you go lumping all Klitschko fans together again!!!

If that is supposed to make sense you failed miserably. This is the dumbest argument I've seen at this site so far and I'm done.

[Nautilus]

Let's agree to disagree and stop calling each other "haters"

TO Torino and Neuraxis.

I do like most of your posts defending Wlad Klitschko, but the part that is personal battle/argument with Tracy seems very unreasonable to me.

I found that Tracy is a very reasonable poster more than 99% of time. (As for that other 1%, nobody is perfect, especially me ). She is not a fan of K2, but that's her opinion and she is entitled to that. Certainly, I don't think we should rush to accuse her of being a "hater." She is not a fan of K2, period.

I think the argument, that has been continuing here for quite a while, has now become personal and has NOTHING to do with Wlad and Vitaliy. I think we should learn to agree to disagree. That concerns me as well in the first place. I made my mistakes in the past.

Even if you disagree with me, please don't personally attack Tracy, simply step aside, be gentlemen.

[tracylee]

TO Torino and Neuraxis.

I do like most of your posts defending Wlad Klitschko, but the part that is personal battle/argument with Tracy seems very unreasonable to me.

I found that Tracy is a very reasonable poster more than 99% of time. (As for that other 1%, nobody is perfect, especially me ). She is not a fan of K2, but that's her opinion and she is entitled to that. Certainly, I don't think we should rush to accuse her of being a "hater." She is not a fan of K2, period.

I think the argument, that has been continuing here for quite a while, has now become personal and has NOTHING to do with Wlad and Vitaliy. I think we should learn to agree to disagree. That concerns me as well in the first place. I made my mistakes in the past.

Even if you disagree with me, please don't personally attack Tracy, simply step aside, be gentlemen.

Thank you Nautilus, that is very appreciated!!

[techn9ne]

TO Torino and Neuraxis.

I do like most of your posts defending Wlad Klitschko, but the part that is personal battle/argument with Tracy seems very unreasonable to me.

I found that Tracy is a very reasonable poster more than 99% of time. (As for that other 1%, nobody is perfect, especially me ). She is not a fan of K2, but that's her opinion and she is entitled to that. Certainly, I don't think we should rush to accuse her of being a "hater." She is not a fan of K2, period.

I think the argument, that has been continuing here for quite a while, has now become personal and has NOTHING to do with Wlad and Vitaliy. I think we should learn to agree to disagree. That concerns me as well in the first place. I made my mistakes in the past.

Even if you disagree with me, please don't personally attack Tracy, simply step aside, be gentlemen.

like i did

i invited her bowling

[techn9ne]

i am now a contender

everyone watch out

[Torino]

TO Torino and Neuraxis.

I do like most of your posts defending Wlad Klitschko, but the part that is personal battle/argument with Tracy seems very unreasonable to me.

I found that Tracy is a very reasonable poster more than 99% of time. (As for that other 1%, nobody is perfect, especially me ). She is not a fan of K2, but that's her opinion and she is entitled to that. Certainly, I don't think we should rush to accuse her of being a "hater." She is not a fan of K2, period.

I think the argument, that has been continuing here for quite a while, has now become personal and has NOTHING to do with Wlad and Vitaliy. I think we should learn to agree to disagree. That concerns me as well in the first place. I made my mistakes in the past.

Even if you disagree with me, please don't personally attack Tracy, simply step aside, be gentlemen.

My opinion of Tracylee has been formed over several months. I can't recall ever reading a positive post from Tracylee regarding either Klitschko. She has also made it clear and admits that she dislikes the Klitschkos. Most of what I've said about her is just reaffirming what she has already said.

My responses to Tracylee only got personal "after" she made harsh comments about me, and even then, I was easy on her.

Also, When someone posts their opinion, I then become entitled to an opinion on them. That's my right. She has also apparently formed an opinion of me. That's her right.

So I'm not sure where you are coming from.