re-watched Pacquaio vs cotto, Pacquaio was terrifying

[Masters01]

Anyway, these performances from Pac combined with Roach's admission that he didnt know what Ariza was giving him, makes me consider if Pac was juicing. I dont think Ariza is the most credible guy in boxing and it does coincide with Pac's incredible performances and unwillingness to drug test. One must wonder.

[Evol]

Anyway, these performances from Pac combined with Roach's admission that he didnt know what Ariza was giving him, makes me consider if Pac was juicing. I dont think Ariza is the most credible guy in boxing and it does coincide with Pac's incredible performances and unwillingness to drug test. One must wonder.

floyd's roid rage makes me wonder too...

[HarvardBlue]

Ever since he started becoming a more technical fighter, Pacquiao doesn't show all his cards in the beginning of the fight. He uses the early rounds to gauge you, set you up, and give you a false sense of his weaponry.

He doesn't turn it up until around the 4th round and catches you with his real power when you're not expecting it, and when you think you can handle his shots.

You might be right about that but it did look like he was genuinely surprised by Cotto's offense. He definitely turned it up around the 4th round and dominated Cotto for the rest of the fight.

[Masters01]

floyd's roid rage makes me wonder too...

I agree. Im totally su****ious of Floyd too. 37, not slowing down that much and wont drug test. His USADA arrangement doesnt count because USADA have agreed not to go public with any results.

But that doesnt mean Pac isnt su****ious also. Roach really shouldnt have said that Ariza was a shady character who was giving his fighters mysterious supplements - as a Pac fan I was so disappointed with that. Only thing Im confident in is that Pac is clean now given that he's taking VADA.

[Evol]

I agree. Im totally su****ious of Floyd too. 37, not slowing down that much and wont drug test. His USADA arrangement doesnt count because USADA have agreed not to go public with any results.

But that doesnt mean Pac isnt su****ious also. Roach really shouldnt have said that Ariza was a shady character who was giving his fighters mysterious supplements - as a Pac fan I was so disappointed with that. Only thing Im confident in is that Pac is clean now given that he's taking VADA.

pac and floyd both su****ious

[Weebler I]

Anyway, these performances from Pac combined with Roach's admission that he didnt know what Ariza was giving him, makes me consider if Pac was juicing. I dont think Ariza is the most credible guy in boxing and it does coincide with Pac's incredible performances and unwillingness to drug test. One must wonder.

What would Ariza know about juicing? he's an imbecilic bluffing dumbass. If he was giving Pacquiao anything Pac would've failed a test a long time ago.

[Fetta]

This made me fan then rejecting test and running from fight put up red flags that never went down. Till i die he was cheating at this time

[baya]

The juice was just pouring out of him, the memories man.

[baya]

Indeed, great performance by Pacquiao, you just can't overlook the fact that "Sugar" Shane Mosley was a far better opponent for Manny at the time. Shane Mosley was coming off an impressive TKO win over Antonio "El Tornado" Margarito. Manny & his team avoided Shane and instead went for the safe money in Miguel Cotto, a fighter who was clearly not the same after Tony stopped him. Not only that, the fight was made at a ridiculous 145 catchweight...

you've got to be one ****** mf'er to think that - really, doe. e******o con cojones.

[jose.sooto]

2 fights after Pacquiao whopped Cotto, Pacquiao whopped Shane. B*tch and complain about the timing all day but the difference that timing would have made was Pacquiao whooping a 38 year old Mosley vs. a 39 year old Mosley. Some difference eh.

Exactly, they waited until Floyd beat him and a draw with Sergio Mora, i guess it don't matter at what time in their carreers where Manny opponents right.... THE DOUBLE STANDARD.