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  • CubanGuyNYC
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    #21
    Originally posted by IIG
    Good write up. I want to see where Canelo goes from here, and I couldn't care less if I see Lara in the ring again.
    lmao Don't blame you, bro. I've never been big on him, and the Canelo fight didn't endear Lara to me any more than before. I have more affection for Yuri, even in defeat. In any event, I hope Landy finds it in himself to improve his performances.

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    • keyz3r0
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      #22
      with a last name like Martinez, maybe it was just as simple as a judge being Hispanic.. and Hispanic/latinos love to fight, they love to watch brawls... If that is the case then maybe 117-111 was just because that judge was seeing canelo be the aggressor and come forward all night.. if you judge it that way then from rounds 6-12 it was all canelo

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      • icha
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        #23
        Originally posted by PBP
        Not a robbery but a raw deal. Canelo is a great fighter. You can't beat him 118-110. There is only 1 Money May. When you only have 2 judges scoring the fight fairly you are at a handicap.

        Going by the press scores, there was a 33 percent chance that he would have given Lara the nod, a 39% chance for Canelo and a 28% chance it would have been a draw. I have no problem with the decision but downplaying the role that bogus card played is being nothing short of delusional.
        again i completely disagree with that one judge, but it wasnt a robbery...
        we use that word more often than we should...

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        • Corelone
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          #24
          Lara didn't help himself with all the trash talk. He had me believing poor Canelo was going to be ruined. Lara ran his mouth then he ran in the ring. He built up expectations and when he didn't deliver, he was penalized. Don't talk so much and people won't expect so much.

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          • DannYankee
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            #25
            So basically what you are saying is neither guy did enough to win and the guy who did the least won and thats ok? Here's something Lara would like to point out to you.

            The majority of press scores, where mexicans dont get a vote dont lie like they said before the fight themselves when the experts said Canelo was favorite. "the experts doe".

            The only good thing that comes out of this is they cant use the 1 judge insurance policy strategy anymore it would be too obvious. Cj Ross and Levi Martinez messed it up for the future.
            Last edited by DannYankee; 07-15-2014, 10:49 AM.

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            • Luilun
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              #26
              I would like to know why the Canelo team allowed Lara to wear trunks to his chest. Could it be they feared the body shots I'm sure they were wearing one of those sparring cups that protect all the way to the mid section

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              • Luilun
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                #27
                Originally posted by keyz3r0
                with a last name like Martinez, maybe it was just as simple as a judge being Hispanic.. and Hispanic/latinos love to fight, they love to watch brawls... If that is the case then maybe 117-111 was just because that judge was seeing canelo be the aggressor and come forward all night.. if you judge it that way then from rounds 6-12 it was all canelo
                True but were trying to explain it to a many inner city Grads you know the ones you see on The First 48 hours on A&E

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                • icha
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC
                  I certainly agree with that, but you needed to make that clear. Your original post suggests that the crowd is automatically correct, "might makes right."



                  I agree with much of this. I don't know if that judge was bought or simply incompetent. We agree he did a poor job, and that's enough. My point was, that "judge" was the deciding factor. If he had been replaced by a competent official, the odds are almost 50% that the fight would've been either a draw or a win for Lara. (Using the Boxingscene poll as an example.) The issue here is, Lara didn't get a fair shake.
                  the one judge was wrong to me, but regardless of that this was a very winnable fight for lara when the other two judges had only a 1 round difference between the two fighters, he had more chances on this fight than he ever had vs williams and that fight wasnt even close like this one...

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                  • icha
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Luilun
                    I would like to know why the Canelo team allowed Lara to wear trunks to his chest. Could it be they feared the body shots I'm sure they were wearing one of those sparring cups that protect all the way to the mid section
                    oh, i thought he was wearing his championship belt during the fight... that waist band was definitely big and thick...

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                    • Respect Power
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by keyz3r0
                      with a last name like Martinez, maybe it was just as simple as a judge being Hispanic.. and Hispanic/latinos love to fight, they love to watch brawls... If that is the case then maybe 117-111 was just because that judge was seeing canelo be the aggressor and come forward all night.. if you judge it that way then from rounds 6-12 it was all canelo
                      Except Martinez gave Lara the 12th , a Canelo round . What did he see in that round to give it to Lara. He didn't want it to be an even wider margin. He has to be on the take

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