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  • Originally posted by Strategic1 View Post
    I'm calling you an idiot... because you completely made up a quoted post from me. Who does that?

    You're a loser for doing that. I don't even know why. I guess you couldn't answer me because you know I was right.
    I asked you a question and ignored it by talking about roadblocks. I understand doe.

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    • Yessssssssssssssssssssssss

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      • I can't remember the last time I went an entire year that I didn't order a single boxing PPV. This is a sad, and terrible year for the sport so far. Canelo vs Cotto needs to save this year.

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        • Originally posted by TyrantT316 View Post
          With everyone that Pacman has faced, he's being criticized for this fight? I don't remember Ray Leonard fighting a Hearns, Hagler, Duran and Benitez EVERY fight…

          Ali didn't fight a Foreman, Liston and Frasier EVERY fight...
          At this stage in thier careers, both Pac and Floyd should be fighting nothing but top tier caliber opponents.

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          • Originally posted by megadeth View Post
            Pac's reputation and track record is his guarantee! Cotto didn't have a guarantee and he can't draw flies compared to Pac, yet somehow he knew it wold work for him. Pac is busy outside of the ring, that's what you have a REAL manager or advisor for? One that has your best interest at heart...like Al Haymon.



            What you forget to mention is that they ALL shop around and find the best deal possible..only then do they make the decision. Something Pac didn't do!




            THAT is common sense!
            No... You don't know $#iT. A bunch of free agents don't even bother looking at other teams.

            Being from Toronto, the Raptors resigned 3 of their players.

            Lowry, Patrick Patterson, and Vasquez.

            Lowry, only looked at Houston I think. He didn't even bother meeting with Miami even if they had interest. Patterson and Vasquez didn't bother looking at other teams.

            Why? Because they liked the situation here.

            Keep coming at me... What I'm saying is common sense. You just sound foolish.

            If an athlete is happy with a situation, many don't bother looking elsewhere.
            Tim Bradley didn't even bother looking elsewhere either. Why? Timmy says he was happy how Top Rank treated him and he made a lot of money with them.

            An athlete, whether boxer or not, looks out for their best interests. $$$ is not the whole story.

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            • Originally posted by Evol View Post
              again when did i defend pac for this? i explained to u why manny prolly resigned with TR. thats not me defending him LOL. pac resign because its less work with the same amount of money in return. u wouldnt resign if u were in his position? like i stated already in my previous post, manny has other interest outside of boxing.
              We debated this very issue b4 and u were defending Pac all the way. Unless I am mistaken and I don't think I am, I will go back and find the posts later. You always seem to "explain" why Pac does what he does, when he does it, whenever he is criticized, even if u don't know it as a fact? That isn't defending him? Yet when the show is on other boxers feet, you don't have those same explanations. Hell no I wouldn't resign if I was Pac. Why would I have Arum take 27% of my money when I could go with a plan like Haymon has and keep almost all of it. Do u REALLY think Floyd is involved in the day to day running of his business? I am pretty sure he has people doing that for him. As you can see, Floyd has many many interests outside boxing and it works for him.

              Originally posted by Evol View Post
              when he retired from boxing im pretty sure he's gonna venture out into those fields. this is prolly why pac is not really looking to invest more of his time with boxing, he's not looking to depend on boxing when he retired like some of these other guys are.

              You don't even know how this will work out for him. As far as we know, he still has tax issues over his head. So why would he not maximize his profits while he is in boxing? On what planet doesn't this make sense to u?? Invest more time? Ever hear of managers?

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              • Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                I asked you a question and ignored it by talking about roadblocks. I understand doe.
                I answered your question... and even better I provided proof as to who wanted the fight more and who did not.

                That in itself, answers who was negotiating in good faith and who was bull$#iting.

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                • Originally posted by Deevel916 View Post
                  At this stage in thier careers, both Pac and Floyd should be fighting nothing but top tier caliber opponents.
                  Isn't that what their suppose to do in their earlier days to cement their legacy? At this point I don't think anything else can be added to their legacy that will make a huge impact on it. It's time to cruise down that hill from here on out IMO.

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                  • Originally posted by megadeth View Post
                    We debated this very issue b4 and u were defending Pac all the way. Unless I am mistaken and I don't think I am, I will go back and find the posts later. You always seem to "explain" why Pac does what he does, when he does it, whenever he is criticized, even if u don't know it as a fact? That isn't defending him? Yet when the show is on other boxers feet, you don't have those same explanations. Hell no I wouldn't resign if I was Pac. Why would I have Arum take 27% of my money when I could go with a plan like Haymon has and keep almost all of it. Do u REALLY think Floyd is involved in the day to day running of his business? I am pretty sure he has people doing that for him. As you can see, Floyd has many many interests outside boxing and it works for him.




                    You don't even know how this will work out for him. As far as we know, he still has tax issues over his head. So why would he not maximize his profits while he is in boxing? On what planet doesn't this make sense to u?? Invest more time? Ever hear of managers?
                    I got on him for the same stuff and he told me he isn't a big manny fan nor a big boxing fan-just a casual one.

                    He can't admit he is a huge manny fan, despite the fact whenever someone posts something true but negative about manny or he thinks its about Manny he comes in and makes sure something positive is said.

                    If he isn't a big manny fan and just a casual fan as he says, maybe TR, Koncz, or the phillipine gov't is paying him to log in and post positive stuff about Manny.

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                    • Originally posted by Evol View Post
                      for example floyd is looking to become a promoter and to run his own company once he retired from boxing. this is why floyd is pushing and is trying to build his brand up. pac is not looking to do this, this is why manny spend less time trying to invest himself into boxing.
                      What does this have to do with making as much money while you are in boxing as you can? I don't see the correlation between the two. Also, as far as I know, Floyd has lots of investments away from boxing. No one is asking Pac to promote...I am just saying he should've made the best move for himself financially and his fans(making the best fights) and signing with TR WITHOUT even testing the waters wasn't in his or the fans best interest. Can anyone really argue the point that he couldn't make more money with business plan like Floyds fighting guys like Garcia, Thurman, Porter, Khan and Floyd than fighting under TR going against Provo, Vargas, Algieri and Alvarado? Come on now!

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