Comments Thread For: Canelo-Lara: CompuBox Breakdown of Punch Stats

[manoamano]

Compubox doesn't mean anything concrete. This is an Olympic style scoring system. Most of Lara's jabs were block by Canelo. Lara didn't throw that many punches. This is Haymon trying to justify to his fighter cause he miss matched him like he did to Danny Garcia vs Mauricio Herrera, Broner vs Maidana, and Russell vs Lomancheko. Can't make these guys stars putting them up against bums then the minute the face real opposition they coward up! Lara felt Canelo's power and decided to continue to run. Ronnie Shields kept telling him to apply pressure and use more combinations, which he don't. There was desperation in Lara's corner and in his coach. That's what's real!

[joesaiditstrue]

"You don't win by running. You win by hitting." - Canelo

Total Punches:

Alvarez - 97 / 415 (23%)

Lara - 107 / 386 (28%)


so lara hit you more times canelo. you hype job.

this isn't the amateurs (prior to last year) you moron, where a jab counts the same as a power shot

fucking noobs smh

Canelo dominated Lara in the power shots department, Lara dominated with a JAB

In the pros, "effective punches" are weighed more heavily than jabs, like I said this isn't the fucking amateurs (pre-2013), learn how to score a fight

if anything, these punch stats favor Canelo when the overall disparity was TEN punches, that's less than 1 punch per round difference!

[iloveboxing2]

Regardless of what the compubox shows, I saw Lara winning or at least getting a draw. It was a very close fight but what do you expect from Golden Boy Promotions, the other judge that scored the fight sums it all up. Canelo is a protected fighter, they even tried the same thing to Floyd and too bad for lara, he is not a cash cow. Lara's pre-fight talk was all BS and I give Canelo credit for being aggressive.

[keyz3r0]

This says it ALL

[definido7]

A lot of those punches that canelo threw to the body were blocked and lara hit canelo in the face a lot of times lara won close but won

[IanCBoxing]

this isn't the amateurs (prior to last year) you moron, where a jab counts the same as a power shot

fucking noobs smh

Canelo dominated Lara in the power shots department, Lara dominated with a JAB

In the pros, "effective punches" are weighed more heavily than jabs, like I said this isn't the fucking amateurs (pre-2013), learn how to score a fight

if anything, these punch stats favor Canelo when the overall disparity was TEN punches, that's less than 1 punch per round difference!

Learn how to score a fight? Nowhere in scoring does it say that power shots weigh more than jabs. Effective punches count. So what do you score.. a thudding body shot that landed on Lara's elbow? Or the the 1-2 that Lara was landing all night.

Let me recap what the four criteria of scoring boxing rounds are (notice that nowhere does it say anything about power shots. It does mention "clean" shots though):

Clean punching: "Clean" punches are punches that land on the face/side of the head and the front/side of the torso.
Effective aggressiveness: A boxer demonstrates this trait when he consistently and successfully moves forward in a controlled manner.
Ring generalship: The judges favor the fighter who controls the pace and style of the bout.
Defense: Boxers that skillfully incorporate defensive maneuvers receive credit in this area.

Outcome:
Clean punching: Yeah, right. His body shots were landing on Lara's elbows. He wasn't landing many to the face/side of the head and the front/side of the torso.
Effective aggressiveness: It would be effective if he were cutting the ring off. Instead he was just chasing him. It's funny that Lara could be moving the wrong way for a southpaw (to his left) the entire time and Canelo still couldn't catch him with a right hand.
Ring generalship: Again, this wasn't Canelo's type of fight. Lara slowed down the pace. He chose when to engage and when to move. He started off any combo and Canelo was lucky enough to land a body shot in the middle of those exchanges. It's not like Canelo ever got off first.. He failed to land a SINGLE jab in six of the 12 rounds and he landed a total of NINE JABS in the entire fight.
Defense: Not much needs to be said. Canelo was missing wildly and being spun around.

Lara put on a clinic.

[Erik1984]

Here it is, please Dummies. Tell me. By how many punches did LARA outlanded CANELO per round? If he had 10 more punches thru 12 rounds......... And then tell me by how many power punches did CANELO outlanded LARA per round ? CANELO 88 ,LARA 55 .... 33 more punches thru 12 rounds.

[IanCBoxing]

Is "power punching" or is "clean punching" one of the 4 criteria of scoring a round.

[B-Bomber]

Power punches count more than jabs, but jabs still count, and body punches count.

Canelo landed more power punches in 10 of 12 rounds.

Canelo won a close fight. I had it 6-5-1

How did you score Maidana vs Floyd then?.

Lara was dictating the pace (ring generalship), had a better defense and landed the cleaner shots.

Floyd fought Maidana's fight, but he still had an edge in defense and landed the cleaner shots.

Now, Maidana outscored Floyd in power punches (185 vs 178), was dictacting the pace of the fight and working hard (858 punches thrown).
He was surely being more aggressive than Canelo and unlike Saul he actually landed head shots.

For the record, I don't think Maidana won, I am just following your logic.

[BoxPrep]

Like I said, the 50 jabs.

Here's an idea -- move your head or get out of the way of the jab. Instead of walking into it not throwing anything.