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  • Bigg Rigg
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    #11
    And to think Canelo won 9 rds on one card

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    • Dinamita 03
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      #12
      Originally posted by UTEP
      Canelo should hire a new trainer that could teach him how to do that. Nacho Beristain comes to mind.
      Having a great mind like Nacho in his corner will definitely benefit Alvarez, but I don't know that he would be the best option as far as a trainer who can improve that part of his game.

      Marquez has been with Nacho his whole career and he has always struggled with boxers simply because he's not at his best being the aggressor and forcing the fight.

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      • Ray*
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        #13
        This is not about canelo to be honest, i was massively disapointed in Lara. I have being told he boxes but everytime i have stayed up to watch him he has disappoint me in the way he "Boxes", I was expecting this fight to be his coming out party, a fighter who has been avoided etc so we are told, but he shows up and just threw the jab without doing enough IMHO to make people say hmmmmm.

        I remember Winky wright using his only opportunity to make a statement after getting ducked for so many years, I rememember Hopkins doing the same but Lara just is a basic fighters in the sense that he doesnt do much to get decisions. I saw Rigo against Nonito and i was like yep thats what i want to see in a boxer/mover, am not telling boxers to stand and trade like lunatics but please show people the real sweet science.

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        • joesaiditstrue
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          #14
          Originally posted by Suavecito80
          Whenever a boxer says this it makes me think that they don't know how to cut off the ring. Which Canelo does not know how to do. Angulo does a better job of cutting off the ring than he does. This fight should have been a draw just so that neither of these dudes got a W out of that mess last night. One wouldn't engage and the other had no clue how to make them to. Turrible.
          nobody ever said Canelo could cut off the ring, in fact most said pre-fight that he had never shown he could do it

          canelo is more of a counter-punching boxer/puncher, dissimilar to Cotto in his prime where he was more of an aggressive boxer/puncher

          Canelo had to change his style for the Lara fight similar to how Trout had to change his style, Trout was not successful, Canelo was successul

          Watch how much success Lara had vs Trout and then compare that to the Canelo fight, he did way more circling the ring rarely letting his hands go from rounds 4-10 after Canelo made the decision to focus on the body since the head wasn't there

          again, canelo isn't a come forward GGG/Provodnikov fighter, but he had to alter his style to beat Lara, I give him credit

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          • BoxingIsGreat
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            #15
            the fight was boring, lara did run, and canelo didn't know what to do with him. both looked average. overall, a disappointing fight.

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            • brettWall
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              #16
              Originally posted by joesaiditstrue
              Canelo had to change his style for the Lara fight similar to how Trout had to change his style, Trout was not successful, Canelo was successul.
              Lara is king. The paying audience should enjoy his style whether they like it or not. Lara has slavish fans who don't expect anything from him other than be himself. Every opponent of Lara should adapt to his style, take it or leave it. Trout, who has similar style, had to change his style for the king. Otherwise, the paying audience would boo them both. Trout had conscience. Poor guy was so awkward chasing Lara. He paid dearly for it. He could have just stucked to his style, but Lara is the master, he the slave.

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              • NEELZ
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                #17
                Lara was so afraid, he seemed like a deer in the headlights or a cat that flinches at its own shadow. He ran outrageously against Canelo. He did not run as much against Molina, who doesn't have much punching power or against Angulo who he felt was too slow to worry about as much.

                But he was terrified to let Canelo stay long in punching range. I don't think he is a worthy champion for that reason nor do I think he won on the basis of his so-called edge in landed punches. You say Canelo's punches didn't all land cleanly but neither did Lara's. He caught a lot of gloves and didn't hit as hard.

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                • KaL-EL
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                  #18
                  Dude ran...

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                  • !! Shawn
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Ray*
                    This is not about canelo to be honest, i was massively disapointed in Lara. I have being told he boxes but everytime i have stayed up to watch him he has disappoint me in the way he "Boxes", I was expecting this fight to be his coming out party, a fighter who has been avoided etc so we are told, but he shows up and just threw the jab without doing enough IMHO to make people say hmmmmm.

                    I remember Winky wright using his only opportunity to make a statement after getting ducked for so many years, I rememember Hopkins doing the same but Lara just is a basic fighters in the sense that he doesnt do much to get decisions. I saw Rigo against Nonito and i was like yep thats what i want to see in a boxer/mover, am not telling boxers to stand and trade like lunatics but please show people the real sweet science.
                    I agree with this. Lara looked like Rigo without the offence. It was frustrating because not only was he refusing to create opportunities, he was refusing to take opportunities that were right there infront of him.

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                    • BattleAxePurist
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Suavecito80
                      Whenever a boxer says this it makes me think that they don't know how to cut off the ring. Which Canelo does not know how to do. Angulo does a better job of cutting off the ring than he does. This fight should have been a draw just so that neither of these dudes got a W out of that mess last night. One wouldn't engage and the other had no clue how to make them to. Turrible.
                      This Angulo comparison is just wrong.

                      Lara was more willing to trade and let his hands go against Angulo than he was against Canelo could he had done a better job probably but when a guy won't engage at all it's not just about cutting off the ring, Lara wanted to avoid exchanges so he did by moving w/o offensive purposes.

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