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  • LoadedWraps
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    #61
    Originally posted by budfr
    Margarito and Williams had the blue print on hoe to beat Floyd, hence the reason Floyd avoided both. Maidana did what those two were going to do and it worked. Too bad Maidana was smaller but still won the fight in my opinion. Floyd hugged like the b1tch she is.
    I've been saying it since before the first fight, if Maidana had Margaritos conditioning, wow.....it would be scary...

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      #62
      Originally posted by bigjavi973
      theres a guy here that has a GIF of mayweather doing a faint following a straight right, and gets caught with maidanas straight right and his legs was wobbled for a sec, imagine with actual punchers gloves.

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        #63
        Originally posted by budfr
        Margarito and Williams had the blue print on hoe to beat Floyd, hence the reason Floyd avoided both. Maidana did what those two were going to do and it worked. Too bad Maidana was smaller but still won the fight in my opinion. Floyd hugged like the b1tch she is.
        1-Williams couldn't hit hard enough

        2-Margarito was killed by speed twice (Mosely, Pacquiao)

        If anyone thinks Floyd Mayweather, someone boxing since they were very, very young, is actually afraid to box anyone?? They just don't understand boxing or fighters...........that bullshyte is soooo old.........He didn't duck Margarito, he made a smart financial decision to aim for Oscar and overtake him as PPV king and it worked.....

        I'm not a Floyd apologist and honestly not a real fan of him but can't deny what I see......here are fighters that 'ducked' Floyd on his way up.......who thinks these guys were scared?
        Casamayor
        Freitas
        Mosely (2x at LW)
        Hatton
        Cotto
        Judah
        Tsyzu
        Mosely at WW
        Oscar at WW

        All were soundly beaten when they did fight him........the ones that didn't stayed at lower weights or retired........

        The whole 'ducking' where fighters are legitimately 'scared' of another fighter is EXTREMELY RARE......a fighter flatly being avoided now? Andre Ward....just like Floyd was before he became the P4P & $$ king.......

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          #64
          The only way Maidana or any fighter will beat FMJ is to throw power punches when FMJ throws. That is the opening. Preferably in the first 4 rounds. The GIF of Maidana hitting FMJ with the right hand was in the 10th round. That punch shows Maidana is still thinking and trying, but did not have enough power that late in the fight. Also, Maidana is awkward but will not be a unknown anymore. Garcia wants his fighter to be lighter and quicker. I understand that, but If he does not catch FMJ early(first 4 rounds), I do not see him winning. I expect FMJ to be first more at the beginning of the 2nd fight to negate Maidana's momentum.

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            #65
            Maidana says Floyd couldnt hurt him and he has the punch to do it so if he betters his stamina then he might have a chance

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              #66
              Originally posted by Da Machine
              People have to admit though that Chino did better in the middle of the ring then everyone since May's return, and his jab was a huge tool in the fight. It landed consistently.
              I actually think Cotto did better. He forced Mayweather to reset several times with the up-jab.

              I will admit Maidana was better at center ring than I thought he'd be..........but not that effective. Just enough to prevent a 'Hatton-like' finish. I think that's been overblown a bit.

              I thought the fight was closer than the score (I had it 116-112/8-4) but it felt close and competitive throughout. I think Maidana would do good for himself to stay under 160.

              His looping overhand rights aren't what did the most damage. My bet is that Floyd was EXTRMELY sore the next day while Maidana was less punished just by sheer volume. A lot of Maidana's misses were not scoring shots but made contact.

              Maidana is the first guy since Castillo that went out there not giving two ****s about Mayweather's defense or skills and just forced the fight he wanted. That's what worked. And I'm sure Floyd COULD run and make it much, much easier, but I don't think he will run that much.

              I do think you'll see him bank some early rounds so that he can coast a bit more........but he will take some real leather. I just don't think he'll lose.

              Props to Maidana......Floyd was Floyd. He just hasn't seen anything like that in over 10 years. Mayweather was a few pounds light......may have over-trained a bit. I think he'll be much sharper. Most of the overhands were missing..........

              I won't mind one bit if its a repeat. Add a good undercard and I got more of my money's worth in this fight than all Mayweather PPV's to date. The only single moment from any other fight that was better was the 2nd round vs Mosley.

              Not saying I'm rooting for or against either guy. But if Mayweather wants to claim TBE status, he doesn't have to KO everyone, but he should try to get one here. Make the first fight an afterthought after a decisive KO. Which he is capable doing. He's gotten too used to coasting. I want to see what he can really do when he feels like his back's against the wall, the rounds are ticking by and he's questioning the scoring..........I want to see the best version of both guys. If that happens, Mayweather should get a KO after some rocky moments early........

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                #67
                Originally posted by ssc73
                I actually think Cotto did better.
                Stopped reading here. Dude got near swept, pull his mushroom head from your lips bicho.



                WAR MAIDANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
                  That video actually shows his speed and timing, Mayweather quickly evades the first punch and leans in to counter, Maidana is leaning to the left while throwing a right so he catches Mayweather in the chest, and Mayweather's counter misses. Mayweather was already fully committed to the punch, it's asinine to believe Mayweather got hit in the chest because he's slowing and completely turn a blind eye to the first punch he evaded. Not to mention that if Maidana wasn't so awkward when he trows punches Mayweather's punch would have landed before Maidana's punch even got close.
                  That's something i guarantee they worked on in the gym. The Mayweather pull-counter. That's the punch Maidana was able to disrupt once or twice. And it's one of Floyd's favorite. I think he should work on the up-jab like Cotto uses. He has heavy enough hands.

                  Too bad he has so many more to choose from. Don't Maidana will be able to counter them all. Floyd just simply didn't expect Marcos to be that smart. Nobody else has been in 20 years....LOL...........

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by ssc73
                    That's something i guarantee they worked on in the gym. The Mayweather pull-counter. That's the punch Maidana was able to disrupt once or twice. And it's one of Floyd's favorite. I think he should work on the up-jab like Cotto uses. He has heavy enough hands.

                    Too bad he has so many more to choose from. Don't Maidana will be able to counter them all. Floyd just simply didn't expect Marcos to be that smart. Nobody else has been in 20 years....LOL...........

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                      #70
                      Originally posted by LoadedWraps
                      Stopped reading here. Dude got near swept, pull his mushroom head from your lips bicho.



                      WAR MAIDANA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !
                      I'm saying I thought Cotto did better in the center of the ring. Not that he put up a better fight............

                      Pinhead..........

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