Will Bermane Stiverne and Don King avoid Deontay Wilder?

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  • IMDAZED
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    #11
    Originally posted by Freedom2014
    No. He's old and very rich, he doesn't need any more money.

    He had Guillermo Jones hold a world title without defending it for two years. It's not like other promoters didn't want their cruiserweights to fight Jones for that belt, it's that King didn't want Jones to fight. He kept delaying Arreola-Stiverne.

    Many of King's fighters have said publicly that King kept them inactive but wouldn't let them leave and sign with another promoter. He just didn't permit them to fight until their contract ran out. He DOES like keeping his boxers on the shelf, and has bragged about having them come to him desperate for money and plead for a fight. He's said he likes to keep them broke. Many boxers (Tyson, Holyfield, etc) have taken legal action against King, and rightfully so.

    With King, it's more about power than money, since he already has more money than he'll ever need.
    If that was the case he wouldn't sign them at all. He'd just retire.

    No one invests in a fighter only to stop and lose money, while their investment depreciates, for no reason.

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      #12
      King is a cunt, he needs to drop dead already ruined the lives of many boxers.

      Stiverne will fight him, it's a 50/50 fight depending on who lands first and hardest, however I think Stiverne has the more proven chin

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        #13
        stivernne will almost surely take an optional defense to make some money then he will fight wilder or wlad.

        Does it really matter though? Stivernne is a beltholder, not a champion, no matter what the sanctioning body says. Wlad is the champion.

        The question should reall be are wilder and stivernne going to fight to eliminate one or the other as the #1 contender? LIkely not. wlad will likely fight both.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Freedom2014
          No one except Don King.

          He's signed people and never had them fight even once, he just kept them inactive.

          Many other Don King boxers have just fought once every 18 months or so.

          King doesn't need money. He's past age 80 and very rich. He just wants to stay in the sport in one way or another.
          In your mind he invests money and the purposely loses it for kicks. Cool.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Freedom2014
            He doesn't invest or lose much money.

            His signing bonuses are just a drop in his bucket.

            He likes to be involved in the sport and enjoys the power/control he has over his boxers.
            So he invests a drop in the bucket and squanders it for fun. Cool story.

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              #16
              Originally posted by Freedom2014
              It about power and control. Read the article I posted.

              Learn about Tyson, Holyfield, Donald, Austin and many others experiences with Don King.
              King kept Tyson and Holyfield on the shelf for fun? Interesting.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Freedom2014
                No, but he ripped them off. They had bad experiences with him - my point is, he's an evil man.

                Now that he's old and rich, he signs boxers and doesn't let them fight,
                1) to remain relevant in the sport and
                2) he loves the power and control.

                Do some research on King. Read the article I posted.
                Ripped them off doesn't equal investing money and losing it for fun, sorry.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Freedom2014
                  You're not getting the point.

                  Signing boxers and not allowing them to fight is a different way of ripping them off, it ruins their careers. Both illustrate my point: King is a snake.

                  He enjoys exploiting and taking advantage of boxers. When he had Holyfield and Tyson it was about money and power. Now it's just about power and his remaining in the sport.

                  Read the article I posted.
                  No, he enjoys making money which is why he was ripping them off in the first place. The idea that he loses money just for the sake of losing it is so ****** that even you don't believe it or you wouldn't try to equate the two.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Freedom2014
                    I never said "he loses money just for the sake of losing it"

                    I said he love powers and control, and wants to remain in the sport. I said he's old and rich, and has more money than he'll ever need.

                    You're the only poster I've seen who supports what Don King does.

                    Don't you feel bad about all those boxers whose careers he ruined and others who ended up broke because of his exploitation?
                    Please don't try to change the topic and switch it to who I support or don't. I never said I support him. Let me bring your ADD ass back to the matter at hand:

                    You are essentially saying King invests money in fighters and loses it purposely just for power. I'm saying that is pretty dumb thinking and offered an alternate rationale. Next?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Freedom2014
                      I never said King loses money purposely.

                      Everybody spends a little money doing what they enjoy. Don't you? Don King is old and rich, what part of that do you not understand?

                      Why do you approve of what's King does to pro boxers? As a boxing fan, I don't like to see boxers' careers ruined by inactivity, or ending up broke because they've been ripped off.

                      Why do you support Don King?
                      Please don't try to change the topic.

                      You said he keeps fighters inactive for fun since he's all about power. LOL

                      I'm saying he can't get them fights because he's been blackballed and that it would make no sense for him to invest money in a fighter just to watch the value of his investment depreciate.

                      But nice bait and switch.

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