Lennox Lewis - How good was he?

[M Bison]

this right here...

overrated as being the best heavyweight of all time..

he definitely is arguably top 5 but being the best is a testament how he was being overrated by his fans..

You could argue the same with anyone you placed as the greatest heavyweight of all time then.
Lennox definitely deserves his recognition.

As Vitali said, Lennox is the strongest HW of all time (ie the greatest). His resume is very strong, although he retired kind of early and should have fought both Klitschko brothers again. But the prime H2H Lennox, only Vitali and possibly Vlad matches him.

True, I think Lennox definitely had a good few more years left in him at that point but just like some athletes do they retire in their prime so fans remember them for their best years and not for when they aged good example Zidane finished on a negative note sorta like Lewis in way but finished in his prime.

Most disappointing we never got to see the Vitali rematch.

Lennox Lewis is actually one of the main reasons why Evander Holyfield is so great.

The two fights he had with Lennox certainly didn't harm his reputation.

I'd say If people were to remember Evander Holyfield for anything it would be his awesome cruiserweight career and the numerous amount of good fights he had at HW ranging from Rid**** Bowe saga and the very controversial fights with Mike Tyson.

[damuttz112]

I have 3rd all time, behind Louis & Ali.

[LacedUp]

I'd say If people were to remember Evander Holyfield for anything it would be his awesome cruiserweight career and the numerous amount of good fights he had at HW ranging from Rid**** Bowe saga and the very controversial fights with Mike Tyson.

True. But I was actually referring to the fact that most of the great fighters in the 90s, i.e Bowe & Tyson, avoided Lennox because they thought Holyfield was the easier option. Holyfield said this himself.

So Holyfield got the chance to prove himself against both Tyson, Bowe and Lewis in each of their primes, or in Tyson's case, the closest possible, whereas Lewis didn't get that chance.

Quite lucky.

[Elroy1]

True. But I was actually referring to the fact that most of the great fighters in the 90s, i.e Bowe & Tyson, avoided Lennox because they thought Holyfield was the easier option. Holyfield said this himself.

So Holyfield got the chance to prove himself against both Tyson, Bowe and Lewis in each of their primes, or in Tyson's case, the closest possible, whereas Lewis didn't get that chance.

Quite lucky.

LOL Yeah poor Holyfield was always considered the easy option by the top brass that's true, in the end it did his legacy many favours though.

Obviously I agree with Red on the fact he could have fought on some more (Lennox) and at the very least should have rematched VK, but on the other side of the coin I would not wish him to have gone down the Holyfield path and fight on to multiple losses.

Basically a fighter should fight on through his 30's and early 40's if he is still winning (i.e. he is still "primish") when he happens to lose or struggle as Holyfield and even Ali did, they should really retire.

Nobody wants to see a great champion become brained because they dunno when to quit.

[$Bullsfam$]

Possibly the best HW who has ever walked the Earth!

Between Lennox and the 2 K bros, all serious challengers are relegated to nothing more than "punchers chance". Some more than others.

It is almost impossible that any thing but a very hard puncher could upset Lewis.

Holyfield did well against him, but the Class A and Class B difference between them was obvious.

There are good chances that a different version of Tyson might have been able to take him out but so far that's only speculation. Tyson certainly has among the best punchers chance.

Most challenging test was/would be the technical giant boxer-punchers in the K-bros.

Rid**** Bowe? He MIGHT have been able to beat Lennox. Their Olympic fight proved that Rid**** could work Lewis good on the inside but that was ammys. Anyway LEwis won (although the stoppage was pathetic and Bowe was ripped off really).

But Bowe wasn't really as sharp as Lennox. I think Lewis would have won. Obviously so did Bowe and that's why we got the garbage incident.

The Rid**** Bowe duck of Lennox Lewis is the single most shameful and disgraceful event in boxing of all time shared equally with the Mayweather duck of Pacquiao!

You can't be serious calling Lewis another class of fighter then Holyfield based on a fight when Holyfield was far from prime. The Evander who fought Tyson twice and Bowe the first 2 times would of given Lennox hell if not whooped him.

Lennox was a Damn good fighter but he peaked at the wrong time. I think if he peaked in the early 90's and was able to fight Tyson and Holyfield in their primes And Foreman, it would of said more about him.

[$Bullsfam$]

My top 5 is...

1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Foreman
4. Lewis
5. Holyfield

The bottom 5 of the top 10 can pretty much go in any order because the talent really drops off from here with Jack Johnson, Dempsey, Marciano, and others.

[Elroy1]

You can't be serious calling Lewis another class of fighter then Holyfield based on a fight when Holyfield was far from prime. The Evander who fought Tyson twice and Bowe the first 2 times would of given Lennox hell if not whooped him.

Lennox was a Damn good fighter but he peaked at the wrong time. I think if he peaked in the early 90's and was able to fight Tyson and Holyfield in their primes And Foreman, it would of said more about him.

I am serious and I completely disagree...

Lennox would have destroyed Foreman easily. If Tommy Morrison and Evander Holyfield could beat Foreman, if Foreman struggled with Briggs and Moorer, how the hell is he going to beat Lennox? Axel Scultz ****ing beat Foreman!

By Foreman's own admission, he wanted absolutely no part of Lennox.

As for Holyfield? Yeah, he was good, earlier versions of Holyfield were lighter and not as strong though, a feature Holyfield utilised against Lennox.

And Rid**** is the ultimate example WHY Hoylfield would lose to Lennox. He was soundly beaten in the 1st, and whatever was wrong with him, he was beaten by a fat Bowe in the 3rd. In the 2nd fight I don't think it was a very CLEAR win for Holyfield.

In short I don't think Holyfield ever convincingly beat Bowe.

Lennox was the Grade A HW of the 90's, people wanted to fight Holyfield for a reason, they did NOT want to fight Lennox! Ask Golota, Golota had Grant beaten and actually threw the fight in the last round in my opinion in order NOT to face Lennox again. LOL

I am sorry but your statement wasn't real bright. Holyfield went evens with Michael Moorer. An opponent LL would just blow out in a round.

[Elroy1]

My top 5 is...

1. Ali
2. Louis
3. Foreman
4. Lewis
5. Holyfield

The bottom 5 of the top 10 can pretty much go in any order because the talent really drops off from here with Jack Johnson, Dempsey, Marciano, and others.

No wonder your delusional, nostalgist!

My top 6. (and then it gets haphazard after with uncertainty)

1.2.3 (in uncertain order)...

Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
Lennox Lewis

4.5.6 (in uncertain order)

Rid**** Bowe
Evander Holyfield
Mike Tyson

[$Bullsfam$]

No wonder your delusional, nostalgist!

My top 6. (and then it gets haphazard after with uncertainty)

1.2.3 (in uncertain order)...

Wladimir Klitschko
Vitali Klitschko
Lennox Lewis

4.5.6 (in uncertain order)

Rid**** Bowe
Evander Holyfield
Mike Tyson

Jesus Christ, I think Floyd and Pac nuthuggers could come up with a better list then you. Obviously you never watched any boxing before the 90's. I know the present always looks more glamorous back when you were probably growing up but you need to sit down and do some research. I love Tyson and Bowe to death but even they know they aren't greater then Ali, Louis or Foreman. Jesus Christ lol

Not to mention Wlad has never fought an elite heavyweight EVER. I respect Vital and he did fight Lewis but other then that he has the same problem as Wlad as having limited opponents and limited skills. All they have is size for the most part. Vital can scrap but all Wlad does and use his size to jab and clinch. Neither of these 2 are even locks for top 10 nevertheless top 5.

Damn I forgot about Holmes too. Another guy you can put in front of them. But whatever, keep the nuthugging strong! I guess theirs a reason your in the red.

[REMOVE SHARK 55]

For me he's the best heavy of all time. 84 inch reach with his ring generalship = Win.


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