Lennox Lewis - How good was he?

[LacedUp]

I think he hits comparably hard to Arreola & Povetkin, Stiverne hit harder than Foreman, Fury and Pulev probably don't hit as hard as Foreman but they are far better boxers aren't they anyway.

Laced Up;

The same way I explain EVERYTHING, with common sense..

The old George Foreman performed BETTER than the Young version obviously...

He was both HEAVIER and far more EXPERIENCED than ANYONE else in the division!

Old Foreman, despite his bulk and age, did not gas.. He fought measured, learned from experience, he is testament to experience over youth.

Old George was strength trained, heavy, had better chin, could still punch hard but also fought smart!

And let's not forget, the only 2 really good opponents he fought, Tommy Morrison and Evander Holyfield, he LOST to!

Yes he was heavier, I think that was clear for everyone to see. But to say he was better than before is laughable.

Well he knocked out the guy who beat Holyfield, so there's that.

[Elroy1]

Elroy1 has previously said he thought of Mormeck as better than Foreman, only he punched harder and was better conditioned. Mind you this was the version that fought Wlad.

That is not what I said you bloody idiot and you know it

I said there is a case for Mormeck being the greatest win for Ali.

I also said Mormeck is only 1lb lighter than Foreman and FAR more athletic and more skilled.

All those are facts.

I never said he hit harder or could hit him. Fact is we don't know.

Fact is the only time Foreman ever beat an opponent similar was Moorer, but Moorer beat the **** out of Foreman for most of the fight!

[IMDAZED]

That is not what I said you bloody idiot and you know it

I said there is a case for Mormeck being the greatest win for Ali.

I also said Mormeck is only 1lb lighter than Foreman and FAR more athletic and more skilled.

All those are facts.

I never said he hit harder or could hit him. Fact is we don't know.

Fact is the only time Foreman ever beat an opponent similar was Moorer, but Moorer beat the **** out of Foreman for most of the fight!

Mormeck is not more skilled or athletic.

[LacedUp]

That is not what I said you bloody idiot and you know it

I said there is a case for Mormeck being the greatest win for Ali.

I also said Mormeck is only 1lb lighter than Foreman and FAR more athletic and more skilled.

All those are facts.

I never said he hit harder or could hit him. Fact is we don't know.

Fact is the only time Foreman ever beat an opponent similar was Moorer, but Moorer beat the **** out of Foreman for most of the fight!

Yes you did. You specifically used the term "a better, more skilled version" of Foreman. And then you said Pianeta would unquestionably be the best guy on Ali's resume.

You also said Chisora was a "super frazier".

[LacedUp]

Mormeck is not more skilled or athletic.

Mormeck has never done anything better than Foreman.

[New England]

I think he hits comparably hard to Arreola & Povetkin, Stiverne hit harder than Foreman, Fury and Pulev probably don't hit as hard as Foreman but they are far better boxers aren't they anyway.

Laced Up;

The same way I explain EVERYTHING, with common sense..

The old George Foreman performed BETTER than the Young version obviously...

He was both HEAVIER and far more EXPERIENCED than ANYONE else in the division!

Old Foreman, despite his bulk and age, did not gas.. He fought measured, learned from experience, he is testament to experience over youth.

Old George was strength trained, heavy, had better chin, could still punch hard but also fought smart!

And let's not forget, the only 2 really good opponents he fought, Tommy Morrison and Evander Holyfield, he LOST to!

awesome, man!

nobody gives a f#ck what you think when your opinions are such uninformed garbage, but thanks for sharing!

[Elroy1]

Yes he was heavier, I think that was clear for everyone to see. But to say he was better than before is laughable.

Well he knocked out the guy who beat Holyfield, so there's that.

Yeah, who was chinny, and a featherfist, and who was an ignorant fool who didn't listen to his corner, which contained the dumbest trainer anyway.

And also he kicked the crap out of Foreman the whole fight before he got caught. Obviously Moorer would have won a rematch anyway.

Young Foreman fought a few decent opponents..

Young wasn't really comparable to modern HW but he did beat Ali and Foreman, the top 2 so he qualifies as special mention. Anyway Foreman lost to a featherfist.

Again, Ali, Foreman lost to a featherfist.. By complete ******idty!

Lyle, a ****er but really just a ****ter version of Foreman. A fight in which 2 punch bags dropped each other until 1 didn't get up.

Foreman in all 3 of these fights displayed he was nothing but a limited slugger with a bad gas tank who could easily be outboxed. He didn't even know HOW to box.

Foreman only learned how to box in his 40's! Many would agree! And deep down everybody knows it!

[IMDAZED]

Yeah, who was chinny, and a featherfist, and who was an ignorant fool who didn't listen to his corner, which contained the dumbest trainer anyway.

And also he kicked the crap out of Foreman the whole fight before he got caught. Obviously Moorer would have won a rematch anyway.

Young Foreman fought a few decent opponents..

Young wasn't really comparable to modern HW but he did beat Ali and Foreman, the top 2 so he qualifies as special mention. Anyway Foreman lost to a featherfist.

Again, Ali, Foreman lost to a featherfist.. By complete ******idty!

Lyle, a ****er but really just a ****ter version of Foreman. A fight in which 2 punch bags dropped each other until 1 didn't get up.

Foreman in all 3 of these fights displayed he was nothing but a limited slugger with a bad gas tank who could easily be outboxed. He didn't even know HOW to box.

Foreman only learned how to box in his 40's! Many would agree! And deep down everybody knows it!

And what great HW's did Mormeck beat?

[LacedUp]

Yeah, who was chinny, and a featherfist, and who was an ignorant fool who didn't listen to his corner, which contained the dumbest trainer anyway.

And also he kicked the crap out of Foreman the whole fight before he got caught. Obviously Moorer would have won a rematch anyway.

Young Foreman fought a few decent opponents..

Young wasn't really comparable to modern HW but he did beat Ali and Foreman, the top 2 so he qualifies as special mention. Anyway Foreman lost to a featherfist.

Again, Ali, Foreman lost to a featherfist.. By complete ******idty!

Lyle, a ****er but really just a ****ter version of Foreman. A fight in which 2 punch bags dropped each other until 1 didn't get up.

Foreman in all 3 of these fights displayed he was nothing but a limited slugger with a bad gas tank who could easily be outboxed. He didn't even know HOW to box.

Foreman only learned how to box in his 40's! Many would agree! And deep down everybody knows it!

Dude you just went completely off the rails.

[Elroy1]

Mormeck is not more skilled or athletic.

Are you kidding?

Mormeck vs Foreman in skills and athleticism?

Really?

You've exposed yourself as a fool! You don't really believe otherwise!

Foreman didn't even know how to box in his first career, Mormeck is a multiple champ at CW. There is no comparison between any 70's boxer to a modern one, especially a limit weight one today.