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  • garfios
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    #111
    Originally posted by Jalisciense909
    My favorite excuse that Cubans and Puerto Ricans come up with, . The United States has 317 million people. China has 1.3 billion people. Why does Mexico have more champs?
    Is not an excuse is a matter of numbers, do you know how you can have a better figure? By %... Lets say that we playing ball and I went to bat 600 times and got 235 hits you got 400 hits but went to the plate 2500 times, who is the better hitter?

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      #112
      Originally posted by garfios
      don't be sarcastic, morales was a heck of boxer when he want it to be, finito along with barrera (my favorites) were very good and in essence mexico has roots from the Cuban school,
      The development of Mexican professional boxing


      Miguel Ángel Febles, also known as Mike Febles or “León Veracruzano” (Lion of Veracruz), is credited as being the first professional Mexican boxer. Febles, who was also a jujutsu fighter, trained as a boxer in Cuba, at a boxing academy established by Chile’s first professional boxer, John Budinich. In 1915, Febles returned to Mexico to continue his fighting career. In 1932, at the summer games in Los Angeles, Francisco Cabañas Pardo was the first Mexican boxer to earn an Olympic medal.
      So because a Mexican fighter trained in Cuba under a Chilean trainer, and then 17 years later a completely different Mexican fighter won an Olympic medal, Mexico's roots are from Cuba? Am I missing something? What's the connection between Francisco Cabanas Pardo and Miguel Angel Febles?

      Anyways, you heard it here first guys. Cuba developed Mexican boxing! We owe it all to Cuba! Thank you, Cuba! Mexico would have never had 200 champs without your help!

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      • LouIE G
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        #113
        Originally posted by garfios
        Son Peter Quillan is not the real Kid Chocolate, google this name Eligio Sardiñas the real one, you have to learn boy...
        You see what iam saying though!! Who knows of these guys from the 30s,and same could be said about the cuban fighters of today!! Its a harsh reality but it is what it is.... now since you are an old cuban guy can you tell me about russian boxing since you are a boxing enthusiast and all?!(and for all i know since this canelo vs lara fight is big on here you are googling evrry cuban fighter you can to make yourself sound like you know what you are talking about!) Tell me iam wrong!!!!!!
        Last edited by LouIE G; 07-09-2014, 04:14 PM.

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          #114
          Originally posted by Jalisciense909
          So because a Mexican fighter trained in Cuba under a Chilean trainer, and then 17 years later a completely different Mexican fighter won an Olympic medal, Mexico's roots are from Cuba? Am I missing something? What's the connection between Francisco Cabanas Pardo and Miguel Angel Febles?

          Anyways, you heard it here first guys. Cuba developed Mexican boxing! We owe it all to Cuba! Thank you, Cuba! Mexico would have never had 200 champs without your help!
          Mexico did learn a lot from Cuban boxing, there's no doubt in that. At the same time, boxing came from England, was perfected in the U.S and we can argue we owe it all to them.

          The fact is, Mexico is pretty good at boxing.

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            #115
            Originally posted by garfios
            Is not an excuse is a matter of numbers, do you know how you can have a better figure? By %... Lets say that we playing ball and I went to bat 600 times and got 235 hits you got 400 hits but went to the plate 2500 times, who is the better hitter?

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              #116
              Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
              You haven't lost the culture or structure of your athletic schools though. In Cuba, they still dream of being stars in the Olympics, this lends itself to producing, or at least finding, the best athletes for the appropriate sport.

              When you live in a country like Mexico and the U.S, many more athletes slip though the cracks so to speak. Think about how many great Mexican fighters have gone on to shine shoes, or sell chocolate in tourist areas because there's no option for them to attend a gym.

              My point is that in Cuba you have great athletes, that can't be denied. At the same time, the system that oppresses you, is the same one that brought Cuba to the forefront in terms of athletic achievement.

              It's harsh, but true. The same reason East Germany was dominant, as well the USSR. If Cuba no longer has that, it will fall in line with the rest of the Caribbean.

              Not saying Cuba still won't produce great boxers, of course it will. It just won't be a machine of talent the way it once was.
              You have a point there but for over 20 years the conditions has deteriorated, that reason that you say "to be an Olympic Champ" is the same reason mexicans fight, you guys wants the money and the Cubans wants to be heroes so they can have a little bit more of food, same motive different currency, what's changing now and that started with Arocha in 1992-93 is that they can have the World if they come to this country, all those lies that the government feed to them since kindergarten are not longer true, so you see more athletes taking the risk, Puig was 20 when he defected and was retain in isla mujeres for a year, now he is in the majors with barely 22 years old or 23, Abreu is 26-27, Forestal and Ramon Luis are very young, hunger is the same in every country what changes is with what you get pay...

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              • garfios
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                #117
                Originally posted by drenlou
                You are so bright, numbers are not off topic...

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by garfios
                  You are so bright, numbers are not off topic...
                  Why bring up number% though?what does that have to do with the limited amount of pro fighters you guys have?

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                    #119
                    Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
                    Mexico did learn a lot from Cuban boxing, there's no doubt in that. At the same time, boxing came from England, was perfected in the U.S and we can argue we owe it all to them.

                    The fact is, Mexico is pretty good at boxing.
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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                    • garfios
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                      #120
                      Originally posted by drenlou
                      Why bring up number% though?
                      % has to do a lot with numbers, actually you have to use numbers to get a %...

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