Comments Thread For: Canelo: Mexican Boxing School Way Better Than Cuban

[Bardock]

Funny how now Mexican boxing is trash...lol

Man I wonder how come there are so many great Mexican boxers in history? Oh wait, it's only because of their chin, that's it nothing more.

In Mexico when you walk into a gym, they just tell you to keep your hands down and take punches to the face and wear the opponent down, then you will win.

Yup sounds about right in the history of the game. The internet is a cool place because ****** kids can act like, well......

****** kids.

"mexicans are a recipe to get knocked out doe"

[Art-illery]

******!!! that's cuz Cubans are the only nation that is allowed to send 30year old men to fight 17 and 18 year old kids in the Olympics and the pan American games cuz of the amature boxing program in cuba.. no one ever goes pro so they stay amatures and stay amatures well into their 30's!!

what you think we don't know that??

Cubans sent 30year old men to the Olympics to compete against 17 and 18 year old kids!!!

imagine if mexico was allowed to send canelo, to the Olympics!! it would be a massacre!!


MEXICO and Mexican americans have MORE "WORLD CHAMPIONS" THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY!! FACT!! AND CURRENT!!!

Well... Guillermo Rigondeaux won his first Gold medal when he was just 20 years old.. ON HIS 20TH BIRTHDAY.

Robeisy Ramirez who won gold in the 2012 London Olympics was only 18 years old when he won it.

Roniel Iglesias won his gold when he was only 23-24.

And if you want to talk about a county sending old men to compete against younger kids, LOOK AT ITALY. Roberto Cammarelle and Clemente Russo were in their early 30s competing with these kids at the Olympics. And lets not forget a certain heavyweight Ukrainian boxer/politician that wants to fight in the 2016 Olympics... EVEN AFTER THE WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS.

[CubanGuyNYC]

don't be sarcastic, morales was a heck of boxer when he want it to be, finito along with barrera (my favorites) were very good and in essence mexico has roots from the Cuban school,
The development of Mexican professional boxing

Miguel Ángel Febles, also known as Mike Febles or “León Veracruzano” (Lion of Veracruz), is credited as being the first professional Mexican boxer. Febles, who was also a jujutsu fighter, trained as a boxer in Cuba, at a boxing academy established by Chile’s first professional boxer, John Budinich. In 1915, Febles returned to Mexico to continue his fighting career. In 1932, at the summer games in Los Angeles, Francisco Cabañas Pardo was the first Mexican boxer to earn an Olympic medal.

Very, very interesting, Garfios. This is not the kind of information you often read around here. Thank you.

[CubanGuyNYC]

******!!! that's cuz Cubans are the only nation that is allowed to send 30year old men to fight 17 and 18 year old kids in the Olympics and the pan American games cuz of the amature boxing program in cuba.. no one ever goes pro so they stay amatures and stay amatures well into their 30's!!

what you think we don't know that??

Cubans sent 30year old men to the Olympics to compete against 17 and 18 year old kids!!!

imagine if mexico was allowed to send canelo, to the Olympics!! it would be a massacre!!


MEXICO and Mexican americans have MORE "WORLD CHAMPIONS" THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY!! FACT!! AND CURRENT!!!

Cubans aren't the only ones allowed to do anything. If anything, we're one of the few that aren't allowed to do things, like go pro. lol

It is a myth that Cubans win amateur bouts because they are men fighting boys. I did some research on this some time ago. The only Cuban I could find that beat a young kid for a medal was Mario Kindelan (33 at the time), who beat a seventeen year old Amir Khan at the 2004 Olympics for the gold medal. (Bear in mind that Khan beat other, older boxers just to get to the gold medal round.) Anyway, this appears to be the source of the myth. If anyone can find other, significant occasions when Cuban men beat much younger men, I'd like to hear of it.

[budfr]

Cuban boxing school is better than Mexican .
Cuba has won more gold medal in world amateurs , pan nam , olimpics , than Mexico has . I don't think that any Mexican boxer has won gold at the olimpics ?
And in the pros : Cuban boxers were not allowed since 1959 when Castro took power . Now that they are defecting , look how good they are doing : Joel casamayor . Diosvelis hurtado . Juan Carlos Gomez . Joan Pablo Hernandez . Guillermo rigondeaux . Erislandy lara . Gamboa ,Richard Abril,Etc .
All have won pros championship ... There are many Cubans boxers that never defected and were great olimpians : teofilo stevenson , Mario kindelan , Adolfo Horta , Savon , etc . Had they defected , they would be champs too. Cubans are more technically sounds that you are , it is evident as the only thing you do is brawl and brawl . My respect only for the las Hoya and Marquez as they know how to box .
But don't worry about it. , Canelo . Lara will teach you what boxing is all about .
Hit and not get hit ; you can not hit what you don't see .

Only Lara, Gamboa and Rigo have been great the rest only OK. Hurtado was a joke. All those who defected are traitors. Viva Fidel

[SOUTH-FLA]

It is funny how "some" Mexican talk **** about Cuban boxing when one of the best they have is a Cuban lol

[hurricanelu]

Mexicans have a great boxing tradition but its dumb to say the Cubans only have a great amateur tradition.
Cubans before Castro had a lot of world champions when they still were allowed to fight professionally.
anybody that says otherwise just doesn't have any knowledge of the history of boxing.and yes before that time they have ten times as many world champions As Mexico.
so learn some history before you post a Ignorant stuff.

[lopez12]

Simple Math

Its also very important to take into consideration population

Mexico has 120.8 million people to Cuba's 11.27

So per capita Mexico should have 10.7 times more Hall of Famers' and current champions than what Cuba does...

Do they? I'm not sure... Also take into consideration Castro's ban on professional sports.

PR literally per population is the beast in terms of boxing... A tiny island of 3.6 million to Mexico's 120.8 million

So to be as good as PR mexico would have to have 33.5 times more Hall of Famers' and current champions that what PR does...

Boom! Simple as that

Texas should produce more champs than Rhode Island no???

[Cuauhtémoc1520]

The reality is this.

Mexico is a big country with many boxers as boxing is a very popular sport. There are two types of fighters in Mexico, the one's fighting to eat, and the one's that have the potential to make it big and be great.

Cuban boxers, by the time they get to the U.S, are usually over 28 years old and are the BEST the island has produced. So of course you will see guys like Lara, Gamboa and Rigo have incredible success early on against lesser competition.

It's the same with Eastern European countries as well, you only see the best they have to offer fighting over here. So don't just think every Russian or Ukrainian can just fight.

There's no doubt that Mexicans in the past have gone to Cuba and learned from the great Cuban teachers in the sport. Even Robert Garcia's dad said he read many of the great Cuban trainers manuals and learned from them.

Saying that, I do think there's a huge fault in Cuban boxing, and it ties in with the success of Puerto Rico. PR used to be a much better nation in the amateurs, then it turned into a force in the pro's....why?

Simple, because PR wasn't shackled by communism and Castro and therefore the fighters saw the opportunities to make money in the pro game. Training for 12 rounds is different than training for 4. And just because you are successful at the amateur level, doesn't mean you will be at the pro level.

Mexico over many decades has learned what it takes to be successful at the pro level, and tailored it's schools for that style. The great Cullo Hernandez showed how you can attack, come forward but do it intelligently and with great defense. Nacho has carried on that tradition.

While I respect the Cuban style, and think it's beautiful to watch, I also think that IF Cuba becomes part of the free world one day, the same system that helped it's boxing, when gone, will also make it less dominant. Communism has made great athletes in Cuba, if it becomes more like the west, we will see that decline and it will join the rest of the Caribbean in level of competition.

[icha]

Its also very important to take into consideration population

Mexico has 120.8 million people to Cuba's 11.27

So per capita Mexico should have 10.7 times more Hall of Famers' and current champions than what Cuba does...

Do they? I'm not sure... Also take into consideration Castro's ban on professional sports.

PR literally per population is the beast in terms of boxing... A tiny island of 3.6 million to Mexico's 120.8 million

So to be as good as PR mexico would have to have 33.5 times more Hall of Famers' and current champions that what PR does...

Boom! Simple as that

Texas should produce more champs than Rhode Island no???

i guess china should have even more then...