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  • #61
    Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
    How can I defend something that wasn't wrong in the first place. Is Rigo boring? Check. Did Arum say just that? Check.

    You can argue that Arum should have said it but who was the last casual boxing to look up Arum quotes regarding Rigo? If you know of anyone please tell me, then I'll believe Arum "ruined" his career. HBO has 30 million subscribers... I would say at best 600k are hardcore boxing fans, will watch anything. You don't need to sell boxing to those people they will watch no matter what, its the other people you need to convince.

    So, when the guy has HBO dates and the ratings go down each time he is on, that isn't Arum's fault. GGG has been on just as much as Rigo, maybe SLIGHTLY more and he is the biggest draw on regular HBO. It's because he is a highly skilled fighter AND is entertaining so everyone watches, fighting like Rigo is the cure for insomnia and people change the channel.
    That's so fking ****** it's like you paying me to be your lawyer and I walk right up to the judge like "FK it he did it your honor he robbed that ***** store give him the maximum sentence". Even in his worst night entertaining wise because boxing wise he is beyond reproach what Arum should have been saying was praises, and that he hopes the next oponnent wont be such a mismatch. Because there isn't much you can do with a guy just shelled up trying to make it's frustrating for everyone just ask Pacquiao .

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    • #62
      Originally posted by DannYankee09 View Post
      He used to smoke and drink and fight drunk in the ams because he still won anyway XD, but he is done with that **** now because he has a reason to he can actually improve his life and his families with his skills it's worth it making the sacrifices.

      I think the yellow shirt might have been too tight had him doing the ima boss walk lol.
      Rigo was smoking cigars since he was a young kid, I doubt he has quit for good, thats like taking milk from a baby. Maybe he just stops for fights, but its kinda hard to tell a guy who been lighting up cigars since 5 years old to stop now.

      Its like with Mayorga he said he was smoking since he was a baby, he tried to quit but couldn't.

      Also I think the reason why Rigo is so small is because he drank a lot of Cafe as a kid, that caffeine combined with cigars can stunt your growth.

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      • #63
        Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
        He's used to winning...all...the...time. That tends to get your confidence up. lol
        lol truuu

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
          How can I defend something that wasn't wrong in the first place. Is Rigo boring? Check. Did Arum say just that? Check.

          You can argue that Arum shouldn't have said it but who was the last casual boxing to look up Arum quotes regarding Rigo? If you know of anyone please tell me, then I'll believe Arum "ruined" his career. HBO has 30 million subscribers... I would say at best 600k are hardcore boxing fans, will watch anything. You don't need to sell boxing to those people they will watch no matter what, its the other people you need to convince.

          So, when the guy has HBO dates and the ratings go down each time he is on, that isn't Arum's fault. GGG has been on just as much as Rigo, maybe SLIGHTLY more and he is the biggest draw on regular HBO. It's because he is a highly skilled fighter AND is entertaining so everyone watches, fighting like Rigo is the cure for insomnia and people change the channel.
          Some of it is Arum's fault though. Sometimes it seems like Rigo is set up to fail. For instance, Rigo fought on HBO on 12/7 on an absolutely horrible card in Atlantic City (Kirkland/Tapia turned out to be a very good fight). Meanwhile, there is a stacked card the same day on Showtime. The cards were also close in proximity which definitely effected the ticket sales.

          Rigo/Agbeko
          Macklin/Russ
          Kirkland/Tapia

          or

          Porter/Alexander
          Malignaggi/Judah
          Lara/Trout
          Bika/Dirrell

          It's an easy decision between the two cards.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Da Machine Doe View Post
            Arum as a promoter had the responsibility to play up his high points. Not destroy him by calling him boring. That's his ****ing promoter! Why are you idiots defending that?
            Any promoter that has that attitude about his fighter can't possibly do his job effectively. Yes, Rigo could improve on his part; but Arum failed him. Bad situation.

            Originally posted by Public_Enemy View Post
            Exactly. It's so baffling to me. And Bob is a very intelligent man. He knows better.
            Bob is highly intelligent, I'm sure. But attitudes and emotions get the best of anyone. They cloud judgement. However, to tell you the truth, I think ol' Bob just don't give a fuck no more. He can't be bothered.

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            • #66
              Nobody likes Rigo. Not even Showtime is making any fuss to get him.

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              • #67
                Originally posted by mrpizza-nd_beer View Post
                Nobody likes Rigo. Not even Showtime is making any fuss to get him.
                When talking out of your ass goes wrong:



                Stephen Espinoza ***8207;@StephenEspinoza 3 Oct
                Would like Rigo back on SHO. "@MatthewG918: you can choose one active fighter to appear on SHO that has not appeared on it before."


                Stephen Espinoza ***8207;@StephenEspinoza 3 Oct
                It's a mistake disrespecting any fighter the way they did "@THAONE_FRANK: u think HBO made a mistake the way they didn't want Rigo anymore"

                Stephen Espinoza ***8207;@StephenEspinoza 3 Oct
                Two votes for Rigo. "@MrBrianKenny: @MatthewG918 Rigo..YES..we would appreciate the mastery!

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                • #68
                  Originally posted by DannYankee09 View Post
                  That's so fking ****** it's like you paying me to be your lawyer and I walk right up to the judge like "FK it he did it your honor he robbed that ***** store give him the maximum sentence". Even in his worst night entertaining wise because boxing wise he is beyond reproach what Arum should have been saying was praises, and that he hopes the next oponnent wont be such a mismatch. Because there isn't much you can do with a guy just shelled up trying to make it's frustrating for everyone just ask Pacquiao .

                  The Pac/Clottey reference is a horrible analogy... Manny comes to fight. Someone also mentioned the Donaire fight, which the guy said was entertaining to him... for four rounds. The point is Donaire and Manny both come to fight, but we aren't talking about them it's the other guy. Manny can have a boring fight every now and then, but not every fight. Manny has been in how many fight of the years? And Donaire has at least 1 or 2 KO's of the year they are very entertaining guys to watch. Every Rigo fight is just tough to watch and I watched the entire Donaire and Agbeko fights to the end.

                  I'm a massive boxing fan, I re-watch fights, anyone coming on this site I'm sure does the same thing. But I've never re-watched a Rigo fight, and I don't ever find myself looking forward to when he fights (except when he fought Donaire.) Maybe it's simply because he hasn't been challenged but then his refusal to move up in weight doesn't exactly help his cause either.

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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by Da Machine Doe View Post
                    Arum straight up ruined any chance Rigo had at becoming anything. No his style isn't the most intriguing, but it's certainly no where near the worst or as bad as some say.

                    What Arum did right off the bat was paint the picture of Rigo as boring. So boring in fact that he can't sell him. Now everyone from the get go is swayed. They see his next fight. he dominates, the opponent shells up and decides all he wants to do is survive. Now people with that picture from Arum in their head see this and they all go nuts. People are sheepy as **** and as a promoter you paint the picture of a guy so boring you can't promote him then the sheeple will run with it.

                    It's too bad too. I'd much rather watch him over guys like Ward or Alexander.
                    Thanks for keeping it real!

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by PBP View Post
                      When talking out of your ass goes wrong:



                      Stephen Espinoza ***8207;@StephenEspinoza 3 Oct
                      Would like Rigo back on SHO. "@MatthewG918: you can choose one active fighter to appear on SHO that has not appeared on it before."


                      Stephen Espinoza ***8207;@StephenEspinoza 3 Oct
                      It's a mistake disrespecting any fighter the way they did "@THAONE_FRANK: u think HBO made a mistake the way they didn't want Rigo anymore"

                      Stephen Espinoza ***8207;@StephenEspinoza 3 Oct
                      Two votes for Rigo. "@MrBrianKenny: @MatthewG918 Rigo..YES..we would appreciate the mastery!
                      AWESOME....

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