Comments Thread For: Robert Garcia on Breaking Away From Alex Ariza

[PunchyPotorff]

It's one of my biggest pet peeves. I also don't understand trainers that give 50 instructions to a fighter in between rounds. His adrenaline is pumping, you think he can remember all that? LOL

Exactly. Cover 2-3 basic issues and be done with it.

[sdcluser]

Robert Garcia is currently busy getting his fighters ready for their upcoming assignments as Brandon Rios is gearing up for his fight August 2nd and Marcos Maidana is due this week to begin getting ready for hopefully his rematch with Floyd Mayweather. The only difference this time is Robert will be doing it without the help of strength and conditioning coach Alex Ariza.

News broke a few weeks ago that Garcia and his fighters would no longer be using the services of Ariza who had previously worked with Marcos Maidana, Mikey Garcia and Brandon Rios. The pairing initially looked to be a good one but things have changed recently and Garcia and his fighters have decided to take things back to how they used to be.
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Only speculation here:

May be they found someone who can provide the same type of hmmm juice

without the baggage.

Or maybe they found Ariza will be a liability later so they are distancing themselves from Ariza.

[Bee Keepz]

Fighters probably don't want to pay him anymore.

This, they probably thinkAriza isn't a huge impact on their conditioning.

[LoadedWraps]

There's a rule I have when I work a corner, I speak and nobody else does. If you want to talk to me about what you see, then tell me during the round and I will relay the message to the fighter if I think it's worth while.

One thing I noticed about Ariza, is he likes to give instructions in the corner. I have never heard of a strength and conditioning coach doing that. He's not a boxing coach, and doesn't know as much as Robert does so why does he speak in the corner?

He did the same with Freddie Roach and that would get on my nerves. When I am the second in the corner, I don't speak, I let the main trainer speak to the fighter. The more you talk to your fighter, the more you mix things up and confuse him. You need to be concise and to the point. I'm not saying that played a part, I just noticed that about Ariza.

Good post cuauhtemoc1520, I respect your opinion. I hate when people do this as well, as an AM I don't have this issue, my trainer is the only one I hear and listen to, but fortunately no one else tries to take seconds in that precious minute away. I do however hate when I have people walking up to me in my gym telling me to do things differently or giving me unsolicited advice, I know who knows their **** in my gym and there are people I respect and would soak knowledge from any day but not everyone, and even other trainers need to mind their own business and not step over how my trainer trains me and what he allows me to do/not do in the ring, I find it disrespectful to him moreso than to me, especially since though we all learn every day that passes I have done this long enough to know when someone is being helpful or not or knows what they are talking about or not, I hate seeing people misguided because someone who doesn't know boxing is misleading them.

There is this one dude in my gym who doesn't know boxing from a rock on the ground, I shake my head and wonder why on earth he has a job every time I see him, it kills me inside that there are people depending on this guy to learn and he is just the worst. Never brought it up to anyone but I would bet money that I have more knowledge, better pad work, direction, and would destroy him in a sparring session which I find sad because I have less AM fights than fingers on both hands so he shouldn't be teaching even a stuffed animal how to box.

Anyway you tell em Garcia! His camp had success before Arizashakes, if he isn't disclosing the whole story he doesn't need to, it's not our business, and Ariza seems to keep getting shown the door forsome reason even though he is the best in the business, it could have alot to do with what Cuauhtemoc here is saying, I will pay close attention next fight rerun I watch with Ariza in the corner.

I expect Maidana to be ready come September, the world will be watching!

[A-Wolf]

lol not the response I was expecting.

[Drunk Punch]

Basically he's an overhead that no-one needs.

With a big mouth and inflated sense of his own importance.

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I've always felt that strength & conditioning coaches are overrated in this sport. Fighters from the past use to go 15 hard rounds without them and only stuck mainly to their boxing and some roadwork and skipping. Now you have guys with these s&c coaches, nutritionists and possibly PED suppliers and they're still gassing by the 7th or 8th round. Don't get me wrong, cross training is great and has its place as long as your main focus is still boxing but all that other stuff won't make you a better boxer IMO.

[Da Machine]

I've always felt that strength & conditioning coaches are overrated in this sport. Fighters from the past use to go 15 hard rounds without them and only stuck mainly to their boxing and some roadwork and skipping. Now you have guys with these s&c coaches, nutritionists and possibly PED suppliers and they're still gassing by the 7th or 8th round. Don't get me wrong, cross training is great and has its place as long as your main focus is still boxing but all that other stuff won't make you a better boxer IMO.

The problem with S&C guys is that they learn all this **** in school and how to do it one way. Ive never not met an arrogant, my way or the highway S&C coach. They are all arrogant, and refuse to believe everyone is different.

I tend to agree with you. Why was Pac cramping every fight, why are guys gassing after minimal output? It makes no sense if these guys are really improving the fighters.

Maidanas conditioning vs Mayweather was the same as it's been in almost everyone of his fights.

[Str8 Right]

cant wait for that tell all book from ariza!!

ariza is an absolute scum. The time will definitely come when he throws everybody under the bus.

[Str8 Right]

Obviously he stopped after Mayweather exposed the fishy circumstances of his victories, and his performances started to slip. The KOagainst Marquez is vindication of my theory dude.

Your a joke. Foh with all your non sense made up bs and to it back to floydhype.Com. Come back when you have actual proven facts.