Comments Thread For: Robert Garcia on Breaking Away From Alex Ariza

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  • turnedup
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    #41
    The only people talking about Manny and PED's are amateur boxing fans who have no idea about opponent selection and accumulated punishment. Show me one of them knockouts that came from one punch that would indicate he was juicing. Instead what you'll find is the philipino champ peppering the faces of his come forward opponents with dozens of power punches for rounds until they finally drop. The whole he was juicing thing is a joke. Look at the people who were juicing and got caught and the changes to their physical appearance once they stopped. The fact we are still accusing this man when he was willing to go to court and sue and expose himself to massive levels of scrutiny is hilarious. Floyd spent how many millions trying to find proof of juicing? What'd the find? Nuff said.

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    • Inkanyamba
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      #42
      My dude Dantaesboxingnation has a great video on this situation which I highly agree with. It's quite the possibility that someone (maybe Maidana?) tested positive and it's being hidden. We already know that Ariza was confirmed to be giving Pacquiao a mysterious substance, in fact Roach said he was doing it for years and keeping it a secret. Could that be why Pac was so hesitant to take random testing with no cutoff? Then of course we know that Brandon Rios tested positive for banned substances under Ariza's watch. To top things off, Ariza was seen giving Maidana a mysterious substance in the middle of a championship fight in the 11th round against Broner. Whatever the substance was, we know for a FACT that it wasn't Vaseline nor water, the only two substances that are allowed to be used in the corner. Then you have the whole glove fiasco where Maidana tried to cheat Floyd by bringing gloves without any padding. We know for a fact these gloves were tampered with because the NSAC DECLINED them. Was Ariza involved in that too?

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      • Cuauhtémoc1520
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        #43
        Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
        Excellent point. A classic example of problems caused by that was I believe Eddie Futch walked out on Spinks during the rematch with Ali because of too much of that crapola going on between rounds.
        It's one of my biggest pet peeves. I also don't understand trainers that give 50 instructions to a fighter in between rounds. His adrenaline is pumping, you think he can remember all that? LOL

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        • NormC
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          #44
          He says fighters didn't want Ariza back and mentions Maidana but I remember reading an article a week or two back and Maidana said he didn't know anything about Ariza being fired.

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            #45
            That's strictly about the money talk.

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            • fundicao
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              #46
              Maidana said he's gonna hired ariza for the mayweather rematch.

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                #47
                Originally posted by fundicao
                Maidana said he's gonna hire ariza for the mayweather rematch.

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                • Inkanyamba
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                  #48
                  I've always viewed Robert Garcia as a shady individual, I'm honestly surprised he canned someone as shady as Ariza, I thought they'd be a perfect fit. I wonder what Ariza was doing do Robert's fighters that really upset him.

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                  • hectari
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                    #49
                    What if Mayweather said in order to get a rematch you can't work with Ariza? Floyd started getting paranoid a few days before the fight talking about Ariza.

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                    • tangalog2200
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Cuauhtémoc1520
                      There's a rule I have when I work a corner, I speak and nobody else does. If you want to talk to me about what you see, then tell me during the round and I will relay the message to the fighter if I think it's worth while.

                      One thing I noticed about Ariza, is he likes to give instructions in the corner. I have never heard of a strength and conditioning coach doing that. He's not a boxing coach, and doesn't know as much as Robert does so why does he speak in the corner?

                      He did the same with Freddie Roach and that would get on my nerves. When I am the second in the corner, I don't speak, I let the main trainer speak to the fighter. The more you talk to your fighter, the more you mix things up and confuse him. You need to be concise and to the point. I'm not saying that played a part, I just noticed that about Ariza.
                      i think that's really the issue with ariza; trainers got irked with him meddling with the trainers' domain...

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