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  • This is nothing but "Smoke And Mirrors" baby!! And the losers are????...., Like Always, The FANS!

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    • what is haymon planning?

      most likely he is planning his strategies for the legal battles to come....

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      • i really dont care much about the article, i just see al haymon wanting to have a promotional company with shaeffer.
        what stands out to me is al haymon has so many fighters, can he really give them fights- all of them. he signed those fighters and uses the contract as commodity/ leverage to whatever he is planning.
        haymon presently not working with hbo- can he deliver those tv dates that he used to dangle to boxing managers.
        how secure is haymons relationship with espinoza? will that relationship continue when mayweather retires?
        is gbp really in a hole? is this due to shaeffer/ haymons maneuverings?
        i think haymon will have his promotional company- but it cant rival toprank unless haymon work with either gbp or toprank.
        dela hoya is maneuvering towards arum and he tries to prevent/delay haymon/ shaeffer promotional company from being establish. unless haymon assures that haymons will work with gbp
        is haymon not really wanting a promotional company, he signed so many fighters just for the sole reason of just getting a cut when he sold those fighters to promoters.( a low risk business model) just like how a talent manager earns?
        Last edited by luisivich; 07-07-2014, 09:02 PM.

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        • This article reminds me of the scene in Scarface where Sosa shows Tony that news report that exposes himself. Sosa has a smirk on his face - a combination of self glorification and concern. That's Haymon in this article. It depicts Haymon as a manipulative genius, a genius nevertheless. That's the same smirk on Haymon's face.

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          • Originally posted by sicko View Post
            He seems "CONNECTED" and has some very POWERFUL PEOPLE behind him especially reading at the type of money he is willing to throw around and him trying raise $100 Million to start up a new Venture if I read that correctly WOW! Also $20 Million throw at networks for Air Time? Also trying to buy out Oscar De La Hoya and AEG? Who in the hell is behind him? Clearly he is not alone!

            I am starting to think that he wants to run boxing like the Fertitta Brothers and Dana White Runs the UFC. It is like a Governing Body over boxing is being put in place and to do it I guess he figures to go above the promoters and sign up the talent because the Promoters and Boxing in general is nothing without the TALENT!

            I doesn't matter what the "FANS" think about Haymon, it is all about what the fighters think because that is who he is their for, NOT THE FANS. Seeing how they all seem to be jumping to him, he must be doing a great job getting fighters what they want.
            The fighters are getting money, that's good for the fighters but if it means Garcia vs Salka then its bad for the sport. Also when you lose the fans you lose who pays the bills, because at the end of the day it isn't HBO, Showtime or NBC paying for **** it's us. If people don't watch, then advertising aren't paying to show their commercials and signs to no one.

            Why do people think the UFC is a good model? Those guys get ripped off worse than boxers ever have, with their main event making 250k... Yea that's what happens where this no competition, the people in charge get even more greedy. Also, I love boxing but I'll never pay for a subscription featuring ONLY boxing, HBO already has top notch production Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire and boxing. Add my showtime subscription to that and what will I get with Haymon boxing? $10 for 1 card a month? The guy has A LOT of boxers signed yes, but how many are in the same division? When was the last time you saw 2 Haymon guys fight? The dood has been in boxing since 2000 and the only example of Haymon guys fighting each other a whopping 3. In 14 years dood has had 3 of his guys face each other, oh yea this is great for boxing.

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            • good article.

              Its irrelevant who controls it, even if the government end up regulating it will end up like the premier league with people paying news corp $50 a month to have football on their TVs.

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              • Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
                The fighters are getting money, that's good for the fighters but if it means Garcia vs Salka then its bad for the sport. Also when you lose the fans you lose who pays the bills, because at the end of the day it isn't HBO, Showtime or NBC paying for **** it's us. If people don't watch, then advertising aren't paying to show their commercials and signs to no one.

                Why do people think the UFC is a good model? Those guys get ripped off worse than boxers ever have, with their main event making 250k... Yea that's what happens where this no competition, the people in charge get even more greedy. Also, I love boxing but I'll never pay for a subscription featuring ONLY boxing, HBO already has top notch production Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire and boxing. Add my showtime subscription to that and what will I get with Haymon boxing? $10 for 1 card a month? The guy has A LOT of boxers signed yes, but how many are in the same division? When was the last time you saw 2 Haymon guys fight? The dood has been in boxing since 2000 and the only example of Haymon guys fighting each other a whopping 3. In 14 years dood has had 3 of his guys face each other, oh yea this is great for boxing.
                Not talking about UFC as far as "Pay", talking about UFC as far as having everything under one roof so that way you CAN give the fans the fights they want eventually when it is time to do so, so you can implement better drug testing FOR ALL so you can stack up the cards for the fans. It is so many advantages of having one Governing Body, one thing it can get rid of is "COLD WARS". All of this is just speculation, NOBODY knows what Haymon is up to, the only thing fans can do is sit back and wait and see how this thing plays out. Clearly he is up to something by signing all these fighters and the word has clearly gotten out to the fighters that what ever he is doing must be beneficial to the fighters because a lot of them are jumping to him.
                Last edited by sicko; 07-07-2014, 10:45 PM.

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                • Just thank Al Haymon for all the rewards you've reaped and forget about it.

                  This guy, unlike Don King doesn't seem to have a reputation of short changing his fighters since they keep thanking him and all.

                  If fighters start complaining about him, then it might become a problem. Otherwise I don't care whether some promoter or network has a problem with him.

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                  • Originally posted by Beater_of_ass View Post
                    The fighters are getting money, that's good for the fighters but if it means Garcia vs Salka then its bad for the sport. Also when you lose the fans you lose who pays the bills, because at the end of the day it isn't HBO, Showtime or NBC paying for **** it's us. If people don't watch, then advertising aren't paying to show their commercials and signs to no one.

                    Why do people think the UFC is a good model? Those guys get ripped off worse than boxers ever have, with their main event making 250k... Yea that's what happens where this no competition, the people in charge get even more greedy. Also, I love boxing but I'll never pay for a subscription featuring ONLY boxing, HBO already has top notch production Game of Thrones, Boardwalk Empire and boxing. Add my showtime subscription to that and what will I get with Haymon boxing? $10 for 1 card a month? The guy has A LOT of boxers signed yes, but how many are in the same division? When was the last time you saw 2 Haymon guys fight? The dood has been in boxing since 2000 and the only example of Haymon guys fighting each other a whopping 3. In 14 years dood has had 3 of his guys face each other, oh yea this is great for boxing.
                    Three fights in 14 years?

                    Are you sure about that? Because I'm pretty sure we've seen more than that in just 14 days.

                    Let's go over some recent fights, shall we?

                    Mayweather-Maidana
                    Khan-Collazo
                    Paulie-Shawn Porter
                    Hopkins (yes, he works with Haymon)-Shumenov

                    That's just two cards over a period of two weeks.

                    Then of course you have:

                    Trout-Lara
                    Bika-Dirrell
                    Matthyse-Molina

                    Here are some other fights on the he horizon involving two Haymon fighters squaring off:

                    Mayweather-Maidana 2
                    Hopkins-Stevenson
                    Broner-Lopez

                    And there are several more currently being negotiated.

                    These are just the facts. Now does the fact that you're wrong make me a Haymon nuthugger?

                    Or could it be that you're just a tad bit biased, or -- dare I say? -- perhaps *gasp* a player hater?

                    Be that as it may, the facts are the facts.

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                    • Originally posted by Aware View Post
                      This article reminds me of the scene in Scarface where Sosa shows Tony that news report that exposes himself. Sosa has a smirk on his face - a combination of self glorification and concern. That's Haymon in this article. It depicts Haymon as a manipulative genius, a genius nevertheless. That's the same smirk on Haymon's face.
                      Lol perfect analogy... Thomas Hauser andhhis one sided article forgets to mentioned haymon signs on to these boxers as an adviso!! (Not a manager)... So all these allegations of the ali act don't mean squat.. Haymon is a genius and that's what these old farts in Kathy duva and Bob arum are having heart attacks over, they got nothing on him!

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