Comments Thread For: What is Al Haymon Planning?

[ex-pacfan]

Long article I can't wait to actually read this, some crazy stuff in here. Thanks for the post.

No Problem. This guy Jan B Tucker has been busy http://janbtucker.com/blog/2014/06/0...raint-of-trade
Initially, I skimmed the 1st paragraph and said the same thing. But once I read it all it was just jaw dropping. I'm sure this is all just the tip of the iceberg...

[sicko]

He seems "CONNECTED" and has some very POWERFUL PEOPLE behind him especially reading at the type of money he is willing to throw around and him trying raise $100 Million to start up a new Venture if I read that correctly WOW! Also $20 Million throw at networks for Air Time? Also trying to buy out Oscar De La Hoya and AEG? Who in the hell is behind him? Clearly he is not alone!

I am starting to think that he wants to run boxing like the Fertitta Brothers and Dana White Runs the UFC. It is like a Governing Body over boxing is being put in place and to do it I guess he figures to go above the promoters and sign up the talent because the Promoters and Boxing in general is nothing without the TALENT!

I doesn't matter what the "FANS" think about Haymon, it is all about what the fighters think because that is who he is their for, NOT THE FANS. Seeing how they all seem to be jumping to him, he must be doing a great job getting fighters what they want.

[umop-ap!sdn]

This article is in serious need of editing from an ethical standpoint and it's not even funny. There's a lot of great reporting in here, but holy crap. The most ironic statement in this whole article is this sentence:

To Bishop***8217;s dismay, his article was substantially toned down before publication at the instruction of his editor.

Responsible editors cut down things for a reason, especially a publication like The Times. If Bishop didn't have the sources to back up some of the claims, which Hauser clearly doesn't here, then certain parts of the article need to be scaled back --- not only for legality, but also ethically.

By the way, that Haymon piece that ran in the NYT a couple years ago was still a great piece of work from what I remember correctly.

I would like to thank the writer of this article. This is amazing work!

The boxing community can be summed up in these two posts, left within a few comments of each other... The first comment is sensible and clearly from a non biased fan whom is taking the time to carefully read into what a writer is saying, as a lot of times the small time writers will force their opinion on their followers due to the fact that they are not big enough to get sued for their comments so they manage to influence the small minded and easily influenced folk who will believe anything they read.

The second comment is evidence of the person I described at the end of the above paragraph. Oh the irony..

[Chiboxing123]

Really great read Thomas. You took us into the world of Mr haymon when not much is know about that man. In my eyes it seems like there is alot of shady buisness that he's made his name on. Seems kinda like a snake.

[Resilient]

Ok folks before I read that article, can somebody clear this up for me.

All of these so called 'Haymon fighters', who exactly do they work for? Haymon or Golden Boy?

Because Golden Boy as I understand is a promotional company in itself, Haymon is a manager/advisor.. so if he is planning to start his own company how will it work being that many of these so called 'Haymon fighters' are signed to Golden Boy?

Is there some kind of clause in their contracts? Are their contracts short/close to expiring?

Sorry if I appear to be a bit uneducated on the topic I don't really follow boxing politics too thoroughly.

[Inkanyamba]

Ok folks before I read that article, can somebody clear this up for me.

All of these so called 'Haymon fighters', who exactly do they work for? Haymon or Golden Boy?

Because Golden Boy as I understand is a promotional company in itself, Haymon is a manager/advisor.. so if he is planning to start his own company how will it work being that many of these so called 'Haymon fighters' are signed to Golden Boy?

Is there some kind of clause in their contracts? Are their contracts short/close to expiring?

Sorry if I appear to be a bit uneducated on the topic I don't really follow boxing politics too thoroughly.

Only a few of Al Haymon's fighters are signed to Golden Boy, and this is only because Haymon signed them when they were already with Golden Boy. So once their contracts with Golden Boy are up he advises them not to re-sign. Apparently those who are NOT signed to GBP are allowed to fight on Golden Boy promoted cards because their opponent will often be a Golden Boy fighter. Golden Boy will licence them for that one fight only. I'm not 100% on that but that's what it sounds like to me.

[AddiX]

No Problem. This guy Jan B Tucker has been busy http://janbtucker.com/blog/2014/06/0...raint-of-trade
Initially, I skimmed the 1st paragraph and said the same thing. But once I read it all it was just jaw dropping. I'm sure this is all just the tip of the iceberg...

It will take me a few hours to go through all those links and read it in detail but I will.

Another poster here who went through it, and is quite knowledgeable convinced me to go through it.

[sdcluser]

By Thomas Hauser - Al Haymon is smart. “Scary smart,” one person who has dealt with him over the years calls him. He’s also adept at telling people what they want to hear, a good listener, and very much into control.

In recent months, Haymon has added significantly to the growing number of fighters that he manages or “advises.” In a better-run sport, his recruiting methods might earn him a trip to the commissioner’s office to answer charges of tampering. Be that as it may, the list of fighters that he represents now includes Floyd Mayweather, Marcos Maidana, Adrien Broner, Danny Garcia, Lucas Matthysse, Amir Khan, Devon Alexander, Deontay Wilder, Peter Quillin, Shawn Porter, Keith Thurman, Erislandy Lara, Paulie Malignaggi, Andre Berto, Chris Arreola, Sakio Bika, Gary Russell Jr, Adonis Stevenson, Chad Dawson, Beibut Shumenov, Jermain Taylor, Edwin Rodriguez, Lamont and Anthony Peterson, Jermell and Jermall Charlo, Leo Santa Cruz, John Molina, Rances Barthelemy, Luis Collazo, Josesito Lopez, Miguel Vasquez, Vanes Martirosyan, Dominic Breazeale, Marcus Browne, Terrell Gausha, Errol Spence Jr, Dominic Wade, and Rau'shee Warren. [Click Here To Read More]

LOL at the UFC models.

UFC fighters are paid like ****. It's thru endorsement they get their $$.

Let's see how long the $100 mill u raise is gonna last given a $40 million/yr loss by WWE channels.

The investors are gonna lose big time.

NO ONE can control boxing as history has shown.

[sdcluser]

He seems "CONNECTED" and has some very POWERFUL PEOPLE behind him especially reading at the type of money he is willing to throw around and him trying raise $100 Million to start up a new Venture if I read that correctly WOW! Also $20 Million throw at networks for Air Time? Also trying to buy out Oscar De La Hoya and AEG? Who in the hell is behind him? Clearly he is not alone!.

My guess is that the original plan was to have Schaeffer continually run the red ink in GBP and try to buy it cheap. Wouldn't surprise me that GBP goes down if Canelo loses the Lara fight.

[sdcluser]

BTW, great article.

For those of you who think this is ALL Al's idea...I think Schaefer probably provided some input as well.