If boxers fought in MMA rules, who would come out on top?

[Weebler I]

Tyson Fury

[Ilves]

-Vitali Klitschko: ATG boxer and good kick boxer, though he never fought with K1/MT rules.
-David Haye: Very good boxer, fast+powerful and trains BJJ.
-Jack Dempsey: ATG boxer and trained wrestling with great wrestlers as part of his routine.
He also trained locks, chokes and holds.
-George Foreman: Beast with physical power. He also was lineman in american football which gives some balance in collisions and could help with defending a takedown or taking other boxers down.
-Cassius Clay: Nobody could catch him in the octagon.
-B-Hop: He has great footwork and is always in position. He can parry and shoulder roll which are better ways to block bare knuckle/MMA gloves than gloves in front of face. He's also intelligent fighter and would probably create very methodical style for MMA.
-Larry Holmes: ATG boxer with wrestling background.
-Kermit CIntron: Good boxer with wrestling background.
-Kaoklai Galaxy: ATG boxer with MT background.

[boliodogs]

Who knows? It wouldn't be boxing anymore but an mma fight instead.

[7_rocket]

This ***** again?

[GeneralZod]

By first round KO?

First round homicide

[M Bison]

Andre Ward and Wladimir Klitschko would win all the time.

[M Bison]

-Vitali Klitschko: ATG boxer and good kick boxer, though he never fought with K1/MT rules.
-David Haye: Very good boxer, fast+powerful and trains BJJ.
-Jack Dempsey: ATG boxer and trained wrestling with great wrestlers as part of his routine.
He also trained locks, chokes and holds.
-George Foreman: Beast with physical power. He also was lineman in american football which gives some balance in collisions and could help with defending a takedown or taking other boxers down.
-Cassius Clay: Nobody could catch him in the octagon.
-B-Hop: He has great footwork and is always in position. He can parry and shoulder roll which are better ways to block bare knuckle/MMA gloves than gloves in front of face. He's also intelligent fighter and would probably create very methodical style for MMA.
-Larry Holmes: ATG boxer with wrestling background.
-Kermit CIntron: Good boxer with wrestling background.
-Kaoklai Galaxy: ATG boxer with MT background.

End of the day If you quickly try to put a boxer up against a top level MMA in a MMA setting...
The person with more experience i.e. the person who has been training for that type of fight from youth will likely take down and ground and pound or submit the boxer, James Toney perfect example.
Ofcourse If the boxer gets someone idiotic enough to stand up with them....



Obviously if the MMA fighter is experience in kick boxing that could be a very dangerous prospect for a boxer to deal with.

[AviatorShades]

If we are talking about styles then the worst style for MMA and kickboxing would be the philly shell and fighters who rely heavily on upper body movement. Their need to put weight on their front leg would result in it being broken pretty easily by low kicks. They would also be thrown very easily while bobbing. Despite his work ethic I don't see any way a guy like Floyd could succeed in MMA. Ironically (since he actually tried MMA) James Toney is another "slick" guy who just doesn't mesh with MMA where all of his delicate skills go out the window.

Tyson and any Dempsey-rolling fighter would be taken apart by leg kicks, knees in the clinch, judo throws, you name it. That style is for boxing, and even in boxing its users tend to have short violent, up and down careers.

Guys like Calzaghe, Russell Jr. would be atrocious MMA fighters for obvious reasons.

I agree that Hopkins would give about any average street fighter in a bar fits, but his dirty inside boxing probably wouldn't do very well in MMA due to anyone with basic muay thai training.

I see a lot of boxing fans calling the striking in MMA and kickboxing sloppy but they need to remember once you introduce throws and kicks, the finely honed "sweet science" goes out the window. Some guy bobbing and weaving on the inside would get his legs broken against an experienced kickboxer (ala the Arthur Williams vs Alexy Ignashov bout) because of traditional boxing's total negligence of front leg defense.

Which boxers could probably make a transition? A younger pair of completely re-trained Klitschkos could probably decimate the UFC heavyweight division. They both make MMA's HW "athletic monsters" like Brock Lesnar and Alistar Overeem look like slow stocky bodybuilders and are very good at distance control in the ring.

Andre Ward with heavy boxing experience could probably develop a style where he catches you standing then takes you down because his timing is excellent. He would have to be really good at wrestling though because of the way he commits with his head-forward/weight on front leg style. He could easily become a "lay and pray" artist (Which matches his persona).

In the lighter divisions I could see Matthysse making a successful transition. He doesn't rely too much on delicate "sweet science" defense and has a hard-straights punching style which has been historically successful in MMA and kickboxing.

Pacquaio has great timing and doesn't rely too much on defense but I don't think he has the one-punch power to succeed in MMA. He is off balance a lot of the time and just focuses on never giving his opponent a chance to recover. That's very specific to boxing where his opponent is forced to remain standing and can't just tackle him.

Then again Algieri is a recent kickboxing champion and uses tons of upper body movement and looks like a pure boxer. I would never peg him as being a kickboxer if I didn't already know.

[Bahamut Zero]

Mike Tyson, he would've stared them down to death and never fight the 1st round.

[M Bison]

If we are talking about styles then the worst style for MMA and kickboxing would be the philly shell and fighters who rely heavily on upper body movement. Their need to put weight on their front leg would result in it being broken pretty easily by low kicks. They would also be thrown very easily while bobbing.

I agree that Hopkins would give about any average street fighter in a bar fits, but his dirty inside boxing probably wouldn't do very well in MMA due to anyone with basic muay thai training.

I see a lot of boxing fans calling the striking in MMA and kickboxing sloppy but they need to remember once you introduce throws and kicks, the finely honed "sweet science" goes out the window. Some guy bobbing and weaving on the inside would get his legs broken against an experienced kickboxer (ala the Arthur Williams vs Alexy Ignashov bout) because of traditional boxing's total negligence of front leg defense.

Which boxers could probably make a transition? A younger pair of completely re-trained Klitschkos could probably decimate the UFC heavyweight division. They both make MMA's HW "athletic monsters" like Brock Lesnar and Alistar Overeem look like slow stocky bodybuilders and are very good at distance control in the ring.

Andre Ward with heavy boxing experience could probably develop a style where he catches you standing then takes you down because his timing is excellent.

In the lighter divisions I could see Matthysse making a successful transition. He doesn't rely too much on delicate "sweet science" defense and has a hard-straights punching style which has been historically successful in MMA and kickboxing.

Then again Algieri is a recent kickboxing champion and uses tons of upper body movement and looks like a pure boxer. I would never peg him as being a kickboxer if I didn't already know.

Yeah if the boxer is checking the kicks...
Kick boxers work on the strength of their shin-bones I doubt they'd get it broken from hitting full force on the boxers outside of his calf or thigh especially if the boxer doesn't know how to deal with kicks.

Its one thing blocking a punch but another to block a full force leg kick coming right at your guard lol.
What is to say that the people in the philly shell wont easily be took down?

No doubt some of our boxers would do well but they'd come unstuck when they reach the guys with black belts in BJJ or a very skilled wrestler who would just keep them pinned down to the mat.