Vasyl lomechenko vs terrence crawford

[Aztekkas]

Loma is technically better than TC. He's busier than TC. He's more slick than TC. He's a better body puncher than TC. He's faster than TC. He uses the ring better than TC.

We're not talking about resumes or P4P list. We're purely talking conjecture, and personal opinions.

Delete my first post, this guy wrote what I meant to say. Good post.

[Beercules]

you guys are butt hurt...how the hell is lomo p4p better then crawford? does he have a better resume? no. is he more battle tested? no. would you put lomo ahead of crawford on the p4p list? NO. has he shown more dimensions and adjustments as crawford? hell no.........

again. people are just running around butt hurt at this point and it's pretty ****ing hilarious.

Loma > Crawford


At 140 I would favors Rios over Crawford.

[jmrf4435]

"LOL i confused myself. I misread the original post What I mean is Loma>>> TC in a PFP setting. At FW the fight is impossible since TC is too big and at LW well, the fight would have a similar result to Gamboa vs TC. Sorry about that lol, I re read the original post after i had already posted and i went back to attempt to "fix it", then ended up confused myself "

Lomechenko is much bigger than gamboa, and not much smaller than crawford. Lomechenko vs russell is similar to gamboa vs crawford in the sense that gamboa is the russell, loma the crawford

[CatchAndShoot]

"LOL i confused myself. I misread the original post What I mean is Loma>>> TC in a PFP setting. At FW the fight is impossible since TC is too big and at LW well, the fight would have a similar result to Gamboa vs TC. Sorry about that lol, I re read the original post after i had already posted and i went back to attempt to "fix it", then ended up confused myself "

Lomechenko is much bigger than gamboa, and not much smaller than crawford. Lomechenko vs russell is similar to gamboa vs crawford in the sense that gamboa is the russell, loma the crawford

Did you even watch the fight?

Night of the fight weights: Loma 138½ - Russell 138

[boliodogs]

That fight makes no sense. At featherweight Crawford is badly handicapped and would be fighting14 pounds below his new best weight of 140. He would be too weight drained to have any chance at all to win. At lightweight Crawford could just barely make weight and then come in at 154 pounds on fight night putting natural featherweight Lomechenko at a huge disadvantage. When two men are this far apart in their perfect fighting weights you can't make a fair fight. You can only ask who is better pound for pound. In my opinion Lomechenko is the better fighter for his weight but they are both very good.

[Godsfly]

Loma is technically better than TC. He's busier than TC. He's more slick than TC. He's a better body puncher than TC. He's faster than TC. He uses the ring better than TC.

We're not talking about resumes or P4P list. We're purely talking conjecture, and personal opinions.

lomo is no where near the body puncher that crawford is. crawford digs into his body punches. lomo slaps and smacks from the outside and then darts away (not getting the full leverage of the punch) slicker? you may want to check out his Prescott fight (an opponent that had just nearly beaten alvarado) he's pull countering, slipping, darting in and out & literally making pesscott look like he's stuck in cement with his foot movement. lomo is faster then crawford? it means nothing considering that crawford has a hell of a lot more timing...........also when you say "p4p" it means head to head by resumes, skills, & what would happen if lomo was a 135 pounder (those 3 things) head to head lomo doesn't win that fight for me........nore does he have the tools of crawford. and he does't have the resume. so he's not "p4p" better...........now it would make more sense if you said "by the eye test, I grant lomo the much better fighter" (that would make sense because thats what you're doing)

[Godsfly]

Did you even watch the fight?

Night of the fight weights: Loma 138½ - Russell 138

i think he's talking about russell being very short with very small arms. compared to lomos much bigger stature............

[Aztekkas]

"LOL i confused myself. I misread the original post What I mean is Loma>>> TC in a PFP setting. At FW the fight is impossible since TC is too big and at LW well, the fight would have a similar result to Gamboa vs TC. Sorry about that lol, I re read the original post after i had already posted and i went back to attempt to "fix it", then ended up confused myself "

Lomechenko is much bigger than gamboa, and not much smaller than crawford. Lomechenko vs russell is similar to gamboa vs crawford in the sense that gamboa is the russell, loma the crawford

They are both big for their weight classes but Crawford has been kicking ass at 135 and Loma has yet to even see 130. Thing is Crawford should be fighting in higher weight classes in order to be more competitive. Gamboa was a very nice win for his resume but aside from a boring Vasquez fight, his body and future opponents are looking better at 140 and above. Which reminds me of Broner at 130 and 135, he looked unbeatable and his "defence" was amazing, power and speed were monstrous, but that came with him fighting smaller men. As soon as he moved up to 147 where he lost all physical advantages the situation got scary for him, no longer looking like the promising heir to Mayweather's throne.

What I'm saying is Loma =/= Gamboa in any department. Crawford was losing the first 4 rounds due to Gamboa's ability to dart in and evade damage while delivering his own due to his hand speed and foot work but ended up losing the fight due to his bad stamina. Imagine what a fresher, faster and well conditioned fighter could do. I like TC and he has a bright future but Loma is ahead of him imo.

[CatchAndShoot]

lomo is no where near the body puncher that crawford is. crawford digs into his body punches. lomo slaps and smacks from the outside and then darts away. (not getting the full leverage of the punch) slicker? you may want to check out his Prescott fight (an opponent that had just nearly beaten alvarado) he's pull countering, slipping, darting in and out & literally making pesscott look like he's stuck in cement with his foot movement. lomo is faster then crawford? it means nothing considering that crawford has a hell of a lot more timing...........also when you say "p4p" it means head to head by resumes, skills, & what would happen if lomo was a 135 pounder (those 3 things) head to head lomo doesn't win that fight for me........nore does he have the tools of crawford. and he does't have the resume. so he's not "p4p" better...........now it would make more sense if you said "by the eye test, I grant lomo the much better fighter" (that would make sense because thats what you're doing)

Loma slaps with his head punches while moving. You didn't even watch the Loma/GRJ fight if you think he was slapping with those body shots. Those were as brutal as they get. What???

Prescott is Prescott. Let's just leave it at that. He's in love with his right hand, and brought almost no pressure whatsoever. Not to mention he's past his prime. A JWW Loma would've done the same thing to him.

When I say P4P, I mean, who do I think is the better fighter if they were the same size. Or, who do I think is technically better from an overall skills stand point.

What's with the aggressive shtick. Calm down. I think Loma is the better fighter. Big deal! Good Lord, you need to relax.

[Godsfly]

Loma slaps with his head punches while moving. You didn't even watch the Loma/GRJ fight if you think he was slapping with those body shots. Those were as brutal as they get. What???

Prescott is Prescott. Let's just leave it at that. He's in love with his right hand, and brought almost no pressure whatsoever. Not to mention he's past his prime. A JWW Loma would've done the same thing to him.

When I say P4P, I mean, who do I think is the better fighter if they were the same size. Or, who do I think is technically better from an overall skills stand point.

What's with the aggressive shtick. Calm down. I think Loma is the better fighter. Big deal! Good Lord, you need to relax.

wait a minute.....did you just say A junior welterweight loma would have done the same thing to presscott as what crawford did to him? I'm done...............