"Alien" Hopkins vs "Krusher" Kovalev Post fight Discussion thread

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  • LoadedWraps
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    #411
    Originally posted by UTEP
    fuuuuuk, Teddy Atlas better not pick Kov
    Teddy may get it right.

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    • soul_survivor
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      #412
      Originally posted by bojangles1987
      Perception going in is one thing. They're why Hopkins gets so much credit. How good these fighters are is another.

      Again, if you list the 10 best opponents they've fought, Floyd will have the majority, and maybe the large majority, of those names. Expand that list to 20 and you're listing only Floyd for almost the entire thing.

      Hopkins is a great for his skill and longevity. The names lack in comparison to Floyd Mayweather. Roy Jones, too.
      what do you mean perception? Was a 39 year old Mosley who hadn't boxed in some 14 years and only looked good once in years better than say Pavlik who was unbeaten at MW and had true KO power and the hugely favoured fighter? No.

      It's not perception, it's fact. Perception is going by names and reputations built on something which was accomplished a decade earlier.

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      • jas
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        #413
        you guys are right! dwyer put out a new vid, im watching it right now

        war dwyer!

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        • jas
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          #414
          Originally posted by jas
          you guys are right! dwyer put out a new vid, im watching it right now

          war dwyer!
          I have to say this is one of the most uninteresting dwyer vids i have ever seen

          he is being way too specific. lol, and using another video as a reference point.

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          • jas
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            #415
            Originally posted by jas
            I have to say this is one of the most uninteresting dwyer vids i have ever seen

            he is being way too specific. lol, and using another video as a reference point.
            It's starting to pick up around the 26 min mark

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              #416
              Originally posted by soul_survivor
              what do you mean perception? Was a 39 year old Mosley who hadn't boxed in some 14 years and only looked good once in years better than say Pavlik who was unbeaten at MW and had true KO power and the hugely favoured fighter? No.

              It's not perception, it's fact. Perception is going by names and reputations built on something which was accomplished a decade earlier.
              Yes it is perception. As in Mosley was champ at 147 and was coming off the Margarito destruction where he looked better than ever. He also came on the back of a hall of fame career and they fought at the weight Mosley had been campaigning at for years.

              As opposed to Pavlik fight that was contested at 170 - way higher than Pavlik had ever fought at or would fight at again.

              Pavlik was a good win, but it wasn't more than that. Mosley wasn't a top win either - but it was good. The difference is that Hopkins only has 2-3 wins that are better than Pavlik, whereas Mayweather has 7-8 wins that are better than Mosley.

              Plus Mosley will forever be remembered in far better light than Kelly Pavlik.



              Originally posted by IronDanHamza
              Agreed 100%.

              I actually saw someone once say Hopkins has beaten more top guys than Mayweather and Pacquaio put togther Imagine that!

              He's not even close to beating more than one of them on their own let alone put together.
              Wow, that's just ******ed.

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                #417
                Originally posted by jas
                Bernard Hopkins will masterclass kovalev and thus move into top 15 all time great
                Lol no he won't.

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                • IronDanHamza
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                  #418
                  Originally posted by LacedUp
                  Lol no he won't.
                  Careful you may get called a "hater" for this

                  Of course though that's not true.

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                    #419
                    Originally posted by jas
                    I have to say this is one of the most uninteresting dwyer vids i have ever seen

                    he is being way too specific. lol, and using another video as a reference point.
                    He's bhop fan, a bit biased, but fair play

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                    • jas
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                      #420
                      Originally posted by LacedUp
                      Lol no he won't.
                      My bad

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