Is there a SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE that Pacquiao USED STEROIDS?

[DeadLikeMe]

Nope, he doesn't decide how the wada testing is done either.

There isn't even a point. He is just going to come back and post the same stuff in like three pages no matter what the replies are. Blaming Floyd for Manny running from drug testing is crucial to pacfans.

Their entire shtick is predicated on OSDT being an unreasonable request. The second their position changes from that, the entire house of cards comes tumbling down. Think of the mental ramifications of it. This national hero, an inspiration to millions. It means he probably cheated his way to the top. They are so unwavering in their stances because they have no other choice.

[W1LL]

DeadLikeMe hits the nail on the head.

[ADP02]

When has manny ever taken any tests on his own? He is still refusing to take them then he gets out to sleep and all of a sudden he wants JMM to be tested. He wanted Cotto to be tested but didn't want to test himself or was it Bradley? Either way wtf is that?

Didn't you know that Manny had accepted extra testing back in 2009/2010? If not then you should go back and read a few articles before posting again on this subject.

Manny accepted extra testing but both sides couldn't agree on the cutoff dates.

As for Marquez, there was a concern once they heard that Memo, the admitted PEDs cheat, was in Marquez's camp. In fight #4, when they saw pictures/video clips of Marquez while training, they saw a different Marquez. So the speculations began. After the KO, the acne all over his body and so on, .... the su****ions grew. Memo has cheated and boasted that he can mask his PEDs from getting detected from any test. All this is readily available. Go check it all out if you are really interested.

[The Tase]

There isn't even a point. He is just going to come back and post the same stuff in like three pages no matter what the replies are. Blaming Floyd for Manny running from drug testing is crucial to pacfans.

Their entire shtick is predicated on OSDT being an unreasonable request. The second their position changes from that, the entire house of cards comes tumbling down. Think of the mental ramifications of it. This national hero, an inspiration to millions. It means he probably cheated his way to the top. They are so unwavering in their stances because they have no other choice.

lol at this dude talking about shtick.

this entire thread is a blatant example of a lame ass our evidence that he roided is that he walked away from contract negotiations shtick.

[ADP02]

There isn't even a point. He is just going to come back and post the same stuff in like three pages no matter what the replies are. Blaming Floyd for Manny running from drug testing is crucial to pacfans.

Their entire shtick is predicated on OSDT being an unreasonable request. The second their position changes from that, the entire house of cards comes tumbling down. Think of the mental ramifications of it. This national hero, an inspiration to millions. It means he probably cheated his way to the top. They are so unwavering in their stances because they have no other choice.

You have little to stand on buddy. You were arguing on why Manny was fighting Bradley yet in another thread you picked Bradley to win ...


Floyd fans shtick is that Manny refuse extra testing. Articles support that you Floyd fans are wrong. The negotiations went bad when the 2 sides couldn't agree on the cutoff dates. Also, there was this little thing called ACCUSATIONS that Manny had to sue Floyd and company.

but don't let the facts stop you from posting your fabricated stories .....

[W1LL]

I don't get why anyone who suspects Manny Pacquiao and his team of shady business is immediately associated with Floyd Mayweather?

[djtmal]

I don't get why anyone who suspects Manny Pacquiao and his team of shady business is immediately associated with Floyd Mayweather?

Always the job of the hypocrite, to mask their shadyness, while simultaneously pointing the finger to the adversary. Also known as bait and switch.

[Beater_of_ass]

It became fact when Mayweather said it, it's as simple as that. People are sheep and idiots and believe what they hear from someone they are a fan of. That's not to say Manny wasn't using some sort of PED's, because with Ariza in the corner I'm certain he was though he may not have known it, that I can believe. Ariza just got fired by Garcia, go figure Rios tested positive for something after Roach told him to get the **** out and hooked up with Gavin. The guy was a shady mother ****er and that doesn't mean what Manny did was cheating either.

In Nevada, up until just a few months ago you were allowed to have a 6:1 testosterone ratio, but USADA only allows 4:1 and VADA only allows 1:1. So if Manny was doping the amount he was using wasn't an illegal amount as it was within state regulation. It's not a surprise that Manny was like WTF with testing, Floyd never, EVER brought it up in a fight before until he had to face Manny at which point Floyd still said we'll use USADA.

Well the NATURAL ratio for T is not 6:1 or 4:1 it's actually the VADA standard 1:1. So if Manny were juicing just a little more than Floyd does that make it somehow worse or not ok? They were both within allowed amounts... In the end this doesn't mean **** because Nevada said **** this doctor's note for low T levels, it is now 1:1 no more of that bull****. Go figure that UFC lost not one BUT BOTH main event guys from their next Vegas show now because of that ruling... Anyway, neither guy was doping in the sense that they were breaking rules, but neither guy was all natural. Just like the fight not being made they are both at fault, however, since then though Floyd has done all he can to not get the fight, there is no denying that.

[Vasyl’s dad]

Always the job of the hypocrite, to mask their shadyness, while simultaneously pointing the finger to the adversary. Also known as bait and switch.

Do you realize you just described floyd to a t?

Says, "Manny Pacquiao, easy fight. Easy work, probably easier than the Marquez fight.". "He's ordinary and 1 dimensional".

A fight between the 2 is on the horizon, "There's no way he can be that good. He has to be on something. He's on power pellets".


You perfectly described floyd. Excellent work pal.

[rws25]

Have you ever lived in poverty in a 3rd world country before? Pac was poor when he was younger--not US poor (many people in the US "******s" are still spoiled as **** IMO), we're talking 3rd world country poor. Once he started being successful in boxing and finally earning that money, his nutrition (and basically other facets of his quality of living) also improved. Think about it.

About refusing the test, I agree with you on that. To put an end to Mayweather's accusations, Pac should have just gone ahead, took the tests, and fought Floyd to disprove him. Basically backfired on Pac and made him look like a cheat. However, it has been documented that Pac doesn't like his blood being drawn close to his fights since he feels it weakens him. He has stated this before WAY before the Mayweather negotiations (vs Erik Morales). Basically, he felt he lost to Erik due to blood being taken from him before their fight.

Great Post. You opened my eyes. Never approached it that way.